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Government to consider using prison ships[UK]
Reuters ^ | 21 Oct 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 10/22/2006 6:02:56 PM PDT by FLOutdoorsman

LONDON (Reuters) - The government is to consider using prison ships as a way of tackling the growing crisis of overcrowding in jails, according to media reports on Saturday.

Home Secretary John Reid has advertised for contractors to provide ships that could house up to 800 prisoners in England and Wales as the prison population neared its capacity of around 80,000 inmates.

"What he's (Reid) determined to do is to ensure we've got sufficient prison places, and obviously, he's looking at a number of ways of doing that and a prison ship is one possibility," Home Office minister Vernon Coaker told the BBC.

Britain's only prison ship HMP Weare, which could house 400 low-risk prisoners in Portland Harbour in Dorset, closed in 2005.

The ship, which had opened in 1997 as a three-year temporary measure, was condemned by the Chief Inspector of Prisons Anne Owers who called it an unsatisfactory, expensive "container" located in the wrong place.

The announcement comes as media reports said 47 prisoners were now being held in police cells to deal with the shortage after police forces made 240 places available.

The crisis comes because longer sentences and high reconviction levels have pushed prison numbers to a record high. There are now less than 100 places left in the system.

Other plans being considered by the Home Office include moving some prisoners to open jails and deporting some foreign inmates more quickly.

The Howard League for Penal Reform criticised the emergency steps and called for Reid to support community sentences which it said helped to reduce re-offending.

"Police cells cannot provide services to people who have mental health or drug addiction problems and will not be able to provide safe resettlement," said director Frances Crook.

"The system diverts police away from their community safety duties. No one benefits from this sort of panic measure and it is only necessary because the home secretary has not been paying attention to the deterioration of penal policy."

Earlier this month, the most senior judge in England and Wales said prisons were too crowded to give proper rehabilitation, adding they were often used as "social dustbins" for drug addicts and the mentally ill.

Lord Phillips said more offenders should be given community-based punishments rather than jail terms.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: england; prison; prisonships; uk

1 posted on 10/22/2006 6:02:58 PM PDT by FLOutdoorsman
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To: FLOutdoorsman

The return of The Hulks, the prison ships of a couple of centuries ago.


2 posted on 10/22/2006 6:04:58 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Then a revolt comes, they steal the ship....


3 posted on 10/22/2006 6:05:51 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: arthurus

--yeah--next thing you know , they'll be shipping them to some faraway place like Australia--


4 posted on 10/22/2006 6:07:33 PM PDT by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Maybe Australia'll take them.


5 posted on 10/22/2006 6:07:43 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
longer sentences and high reconviction levels have pushed prison numbers to a record high

Build or float what prisons you need. Convict and sentence more harshly. The payoff will come in a few years as crime rates decline. Not arresting burglars and increasingly more serious "petty" criminals is pushing hard in the opposite direction, though.

6 posted on 10/22/2006 6:07:47 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Fill up the prison ship, set sail for Karachi and dump them 300 yards off shore, sink or swim


7 posted on 10/22/2006 6:09:08 PM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do")
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To: FLOutdoorsman

Great idea! Don't we have hundreds of old naval transports and that type of vessel in "mothballs" that we could use for the same purpose. Also, if a prisoner escapes, where could he go?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1997/09/15/MN39732.DTL


8 posted on 10/22/2006 6:21:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Second to none!)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
We just load them on buses and drive them around interminably here.

It's known as "diesel therapy"".

11 posted on 10/22/2006 6:27:18 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: dennisw
Fill the ship with the worst offenders. Sail to a point offshore, where we need artificial reefs.

Sink the ship.

Hey, sharks are becoming endangered. This feeds them, provides habitat for other species, enlists Greenpeace in a good cause, and cuts back on Democrats. Win/win!

12 posted on 10/22/2006 6:32:47 PM PDT by Fatuncle (Of course I'm ignorant. I'm here to learn.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
in Portland Harbour

How is it possible that a ship, IN PORT is cheaper to operate than a building? It can't be more secure, it's in port.

13 posted on 10/22/2006 6:33:03 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: FLOutdoorsman
LONDON (Reuters) - The government is to consider using prison ships as a way of tackling the growing crisis of overcrowding in jails, according to media reports on Saturday.

They tried that once already, but if they must ... here's the new flagship of their fleet.

HMS Iron Discipline has a nice ring to it.

14 posted on 10/22/2006 6:51:10 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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