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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 22 October 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 22 October 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/22/2006 3:36:41 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Phsstpok
Good analysis....permit me to elaborate and expand....

As the Dems awake after election day, having failed to take either the House or the Senate, the 2008 campaign for the WH begins in earnest, and look for the Clintons to seize control of the Dem pary and all its machinery. That means Dean is out at the DNC, and both Pelosi and Reid will be gone as Dem leaders in Congress..No way Hillary will run for the WH with those two as the faces of the Dem party in Congress for the two years...Pelosi's out, so is Murtha..and it won't be Hoyer...I look for Rahm Emanuel to get the slot in the House, and, here's a BIG surprise call...Hillary will back Schumer for minority leader in the Senate..It won't be Durbin..because he's in Obama's camp...and Chuckie, for all his many faults, is only among the few Dem senators NOT running for the WH...so, she wins his loyalty that way..

501 posted on 10/22/2006 8:18:41 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Carry_Okie
What irony if Obama is in a primary race against Hillary. That will be ugly.

Bill Kristol said last week, either on the Sunday roundtable or on Brit's panel one day, that he predicted Gore would win the '08 nomination.  He could stand up at an early primary debate and say to any of the likely Senate contenders (not including Obama) that he, Gore, opposed the war from the beginning and they, including Hillary, had voted for it.  Kristol's idea was that a statement like that would instantly win the primary for him based on who the Dem primary voters are.

I'm not sure how the dynamics would play out with Obama thrown into the mix.  He could turn around and claim innocence, since he wasn't in the Senate at the time, and then bash Gore for any of a thousand things in the Clinton years.  That would be a twofer if Hillary were standing there as well.

502 posted on 10/22/2006 8:19:48 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: anita

"Looks like Clinton is not angry at Wallace at all - or else how in the world his major contributor friend would agree to appear on Fox?"

That's an interesting thought. Something I've been thinking as I've seen Pres Bush on BOR and he'll be on Steffy's and other shows is how he gets tough questions and answers them thoughtfully and sometimes humoursly. Klintoon came unglued over 1 little question. Just another indication to me of who is the better man and leader - - -of course, the DBM will never mention this!


503 posted on 10/22/2006 8:20:51 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: johnny7

I found a neat online morphing program - easy to transform your favorite politician.

http://www-old.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/~morph/Transformer/index.html


504 posted on 10/22/2006 8:21:26 AM PDT by debg
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To: debg
FYI..in today's NY TImes..Pelosi is quoted, upon being asked which suite of offices she'll occupy next year..."I'll have any suite of offices I want.."

reminds me of an old Greek proverb....

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.."

505 posted on 10/22/2006 8:22:21 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Phsstpok
I'm not sure how the dynamics would play out with Obama thrown into the mix.

The resulting ugliness might be a way to finally break the black vote out of the Slave Party column for good, especially if Steele wins in Maryland.

506 posted on 10/22/2006 8:24:33 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: OldFriend

The Pubbies in CA have filed suit against Jerry Brown saying he can't be AG because of the requirements:

Republicans file lawsuit seeking to disqualify Brown as candidate.
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Friday, October 20, 2006 | Greg Lucas

Posted on 10/20/2006 7:57:45 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

CAMPAIGN 2006: Attorney General Republicans file lawsuit seeking to disqualify Brown as candidate Filing says he's not active member of bar -- mayor's spokesman calls action 'dirty trick'

10-20) 04:00 PDT Sacramento -- A lawsuit filed Thursday by two GOP party activists claims Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown's failure to maintain an active membership in the state bar for two of the past five years disqualifies him from holding the office of attorney general.

State law says candidates for attorney general must have been admitted to practice before the California Supreme Court for "at least five years immediately preceding" election.

Brown's status with the State Bar was "inactive" from 1997 to 2003, which prevented him not only from practicing law in California but from reaching the five-year minimum, the lawsuit says.

"It would be as serious miscarriage of justice for us to elect an attorney general who isn't eligible," said Tom Del Beccaro, the lead plaintiff and chair of the Contra Costa County Republican Party at a press conference outside Sacramento Superior Court, where the issue will be decided. "When you go inactive, you are no longer able to practice. That makes him ineligible."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1722938/posts


507 posted on 10/22/2006 8:25:33 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: onyx
I'll chide those of you who can't bear to watch the Sunday shows. We're all tired of more doom and gloom, but we've got to know what we're up against in the last 2 weeks.

They're predictions are wrong. Note how all pollsters are starting to narrow their numbers so they have some credibity when all votes are counted.

Closing our eyes at this crucial time is tantamount to cut and run. Hang in there and fight. See my tagline.

I love your tagline, btw. So true. I've started calling Dems on it flat out with: "So you think Americans are the bad guys?" They don't like to answer it. America's role on this planet has been the role of the good guy...one of the few. If they can't see it, heaven help them.

508 posted on 10/22/2006 8:26:19 AM PDT by chiller (Libs can be eliminated this election cycle with your help. And they must be crushed.)
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To: ken5050

Reminds me of another old saying: Ain't no fool like an old fool


509 posted on 10/22/2006 8:27:07 AM PDT by debg
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To: Seattle Conservative

Moonbeam will just get the 9th Circus to rule in his favor.


510 posted on 10/22/2006 8:27:10 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: ken5050
Can't read the entire thread to this point ... but wish to opine.

After watching the alphabet network sycophancy to democrats, it is plain the current talking point is 'we democrats advocate bipartisan action to save the Iraq effort', which is to say 'we democrats will call it bipartisan if and only if everyone does what we want, asap., else we and our media whoredom will completely undermine any effort in Iraq and the war on terrorism, regardless of how many Americans get killed because of our 'emboldening/abetting-terrorist killing American soldiers' strategy to empower our party at any cost.'

And if that isn't sufficient reason for EVERY conservative to get out and vote this cycle, to reject the democrap party and the whoring media sycophants for democraps there will never be a more vital election into which conservative power may be projected!

511 posted on 10/22/2006 8:27:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: greyfoxx39

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512 posted on 10/22/2006 8:29:15 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Clinton's FBI, media whores and judges are working overtime to defeat the Republicans in November.)
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To: rodguy911
Everyone everywhere has been furiously looking for the leaker of(it was only stamped secret not top secret)classified intel and seems he has been found!/

How confident are we that the entire NIE was classified "Secret" not TS?

513 posted on 10/22/2006 8:29:20 AM PDT by rmgatto
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To: txradioguy
You are preaching to the Choir

I wasn't really directing that post at you, radioguy. I heard the odious Marvin Kalb say yesterday that it was right for CNN to show the terrorist snuff video because it is their job to get the facts of the war out to the people. I was and still am furious over that.

514 posted on 10/22/2006 8:29:48 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Alas Babylon!

ACLU case focus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1723872/posts


515 posted on 10/22/2006 8:30:27 AM PDT by AliVeritas ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mo1
Seems like there could be more going on in the background that we know, don't pay any attention to Juan's stupid comments! He's just getting strapped into his DNC crash mobile getting ready for another ride into the crash wall.

Here is some great stuff I picked up at
The intelligence Summit,
There is so much info there it will take several hours to go over it all:

http://intelligence-summit.blogspot.com/

Looks like there is a secret alliance against Iran with several key players in the group they include Jordan,Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey and Israel all forming a regional intelligence alliance to counter Iran, both her nuclear aspirations and Iran's effort to create a Shiite Crescent from Tehran to Beirut..

Colombia--business as usual-- as govt. pretenders are bought off to maintain their superiority in delivering coke to the US.....

Venezuela's --now a hub of terrorism..

N. Korea --Lil kim sorry for setting off some nukes....

Egyptian police seize arms headed for Gaza...

Russia--violtates Georgian waters--also caught supplying Iran with key missiles that were shipped to syria and then found in the possession of the hezzies in recent war with Israel.

This site is just loaded with great stuff--must read for all.
516 posted on 10/22/2006 8:31:48 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Bahbah

I understood what you ment. I was just expanding on what you said by using my own journalistic experience over there as an example.

There is a HUGE difference between what is really goingon in Iraq on a daily basis...and what we see on the news at night.


517 posted on 10/22/2006 8:33:17 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Eng. K.I.A. 25 April 2005)
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To: Miss Marple

Miss Marple, that was a fun trivia quiz you posted on Physspok ? yesterday, and the best thing was that you posted the answers fairly soon.

I only knew a couple, but when you posted the answers, of course, I remembered all of them. Can't believe I forgot Eleanor Mondale...that was a hoot!

And Clinton's secretary, Betty what's her name... wonder what ever happened to her? Remember that her brother had some sort of accident during the height of the testimony stuff? A lot of us grabbed our handy tinfoil and thought that was a message to Betty.

It probably wasn't, but I always wondered if she was bought off or scared off or just on His side.

Another thing I've always wondered about is the Kopechne's. They never made a fuss. Not like I would have made. I always wondered about that also. Were they scared off or bought off? Or both? Maybe they were threatened with a lot of sleazy stuff coming out about their daughter--people were more conservative about that kind of thing back in that day.

Anyway, I'm thrilled everytime I see someone bring up Mary Jo's demise these days. Bet Fat Ted thought that was way behind him.


518 posted on 10/22/2006 8:33:39 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: SkyPilot

Nice touch. The angles and colors really capture the cold, inner-stalinist/leftist side of her.

519 posted on 10/22/2006 8:33:44 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ConservativeGreek
That may not be true.
Less people are self identifying as Republicans.

That's the DBM explanation, which I simply don't buy.  I lean towards Dafyd ab Hugh's analysis CAN the Polls All Be "Screwy?" Of Course They Can at Big Lizards. 

The central issue is are we seeing a huge shift in party affiliation, one that is historically way outside of anything we've seen in decades?  I just don't see that happening.  I do see people muttering about not voting, but that's only anecdotal and no one I'm seeing is talking about switching sides.  And the fact that the polls have been wrong for 10 years and always wrong in way overestimating Democrat positions in most cases adds to my conviction that that explanation just won't fly.

What the DBM is doing is all about depressing Republicans and convincing them not to go out and vote.  It's deliberate and desperate and I really don't think it will work.

I also see a lot more Republicans getting pissed off about this manipulation of them and getting out and volunteering and that includes me.  In talking to "the regulars" who have worked lots of campaigns that's what they say they're seeing too. 

520 posted on 10/22/2006 8:33:50 AM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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