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1 posted on 10/21/2006 4:06:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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Los Angeles Times, October 20, 2006

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Following is a translation of a letter written in Spanish by the campaign office of Tan Nguyen, a Republican congressional candidate in central Orange County, and mailed to an estimated 14,000 registered voters.

Greetings xxxxxxxx…

You are being sent this letter because you were recently registered to vote. If you are a citizen of the United States, we ask that you participate in the democratic process of voting.

You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time and you will be deported for voting without having a right to do so.

At the same time, you are advised that the government of the United States is installing a new computer system to verify the names of all new registered voters that vote in the October and November elections. Anti-immigration organizations can ask for information from this new computer system.

Unlike Mexico, here, there is no incentive to vote. There is not a voter registration card in the United States. Therefore, it is useless and dangerous to vote in any election if you are not a citizen of the United States.

Do not listen to any politician that tells you the opposite. They are only looking out for their own interest. They only want to win elections without any regard to what happens to you.

Sincerely,

Sergio Ramirez


2 posted on 10/21/2006 4:07:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Shortly after news of the letter broke Nguyen said he would hold a news conference Friday to explain what had happened. When Friday arrived, however, he didn't show up to meet reporters.

Could it be he was busy entertaining Lockyer's police force that raided his home and offices? What shabby reporting! Of course, the press was there for the feeding frenzy, along with all the other usual suspects.

"If I was in early Rome, I would have gone to see the Christians being eaten."
-- Frank Barbaro, chairman of the OC Democratic Party, when asked why he joined the crowd watching Tan Nguyen's campaign office being raided by officials today.

4 posted on 10/21/2006 4:11:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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So, Herr Schwarzenegger doesn't like having Asians run for office either?


5 posted on 10/21/2006 4:15:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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SANTA ANA, Calif. - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, calling an intimidating letter sent to thousands of Hispanic voters "a hate crime,"...

Arnold just lost my vote. I will vote R's all the way down ticket, but for governor I will vote 3rd party or not vote for any candidate.

It's usually the DemomRats who play the race card or "hate crime" card late in the campaign, so it's very disappointing for an R to do so.

6 posted on 10/21/2006 4:17:07 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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Is it wrong to tell the truth? Seems as though it is IF YOU VOTE AND ARE NOT A CITIZEN you have committed a felony unless of course you are an anti-American Democrat and then the law is to vote early and often to make sure the dictatorship remains in force.
8 posted on 10/21/2006 4:17:50 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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The letter, written in Spanish, was mailed to an estimated 14,000 Democratic voters in Orange County. It warned: "You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time."

So truth is a hate crime in California. Figures.

Is there some way we can use a nuke and just split those idiots off from the rest of the USA?

9 posted on 10/21/2006 4:20:06 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
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ahnold...shut up while you're ahead.


11 posted on 10/21/2006 4:23:02 PM PDT by bannie
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The People's Republic of California is awful.


13 posted on 10/21/2006 4:24:36 PM PDT by Rosemont
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And to think this Lop runs around calling everyone else a "girlyman",


15 posted on 10/21/2006 4:27:55 PM PDT by ARE SOLE
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, calling an intimidating letter sent to thousands of Hispanic voters "a hate crime," said Saturday the Republican candidate whose campaign it was linked to should quit the race if he had anything to do with it.

Arnold hates Republican candidates and Republican principles.

17 posted on 10/21/2006 4:30:29 PM PDT by Mojave
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Talk about the lesser of two evils. Arnold is certainly "lesser" and getting more "lesser" all of the time.


24 posted on 10/21/2006 4:48:25 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime

This is INSANITY, what crime has been committed? So a person expressing their right to free speech to paraphrase the following law, is being investigated for crimes, tried and convected by the media and the now governor calling this a hate crime?

Need we be reminded:

In 1996, Congress enacted the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, making it a federal crime for non-citizens to vote in any federal election (or state election, unless authorized by state law). As a penalty, ineligible non-citizens who knowingly vote may be deported. (see reference)

The only mistake in this letter was using the phrase " if your residence in this country is illegal you are an immigrant" rather than or an illegal immigrant, but the first part should be self exclusive, if a person is residing illegally they are an immigrant, duh!!!!, an illegal immigrant!!!!

Its because we are not allowed to use the word "illegal" with the word immigrant, this has caused semantic insanity. If the letters were to have been sent using the word "illegal" you can bet they would investigate hate crimes for using the word illegal.....in fact by omitting the word illegal, the letter cannot be a hate crime by their own adopt standards of PC laungage...

Folks this country is in trouble!

Reference: Testimony to congress outline the illegality and penalty for deportation if an immigrant who resides illegally votes ( e.g. illegal immigrant)
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=leg_testimony_june222006
26 posted on 10/21/2006 4:53:26 PM PDT by seastay
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...so now enforcing the law is akin to a horrible crime against humanity?

....wonder if they'll take this approach when they crack down on tax evaders....


29 posted on 10/21/2006 5:01:55 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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A hate crime? Let the frothing hyberbole begin...


30 posted on 10/21/2006 5:06:24 PM PDT by MeanFreePath
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Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, calling an intimidating letter sent to thousands of Hispanic voters "a hate crime,"

Maria Shrivers girlfriend speaketh.

She's sleeping with a girly-man named Arnold.

34 posted on 10/21/2006 6:09:49 PM PDT by lowbridge (DNC - "We support our troops! Ummm.....what do they look like again?")
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Adult naturalized citizens are eligible to vote. Secretary of State Bruce McPherson said Friday that his office will send letters to homes that received the mailing to clarify voters' rights before the Nov. 7 election.

I hope the Sec. of State sends a simple letter that reminds these newly-registered voters that a voter must be an adult citizen and cannot vote twice, and that any voter has the freedom to choose not to vote. He should also clearly state that the law provides penalties (such as deportation or jail time) for illegal voting.

Wait a minute, isn't that pretty much what the original letter said? What a waste of our tax dollars for his office to send an unnecessary letter to these thousands of people. Why not simply encourage Loretta Sanchez to send a campaign letter citing the same laws?

35 posted on 10/21/2006 6:29:48 PM PDT by heleny (NO on all bonds/taxes)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com just remember... Republicians vote on Tuesday, and democRATs vote on WEDNESDAY!!!
37 posted on 10/21/2006 7:02:49 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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First, a nonsensical ban on perfectly legal .50 cal firearms, and now this "hate crime" pap.

arnold, like giuliani and mccain, is a political-opportunist and poll-chasing RINO.

Nothing more, nothing less.

40 posted on 10/21/2006 7:13:39 PM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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It was an absolutely stupid stupid stupid letter (infiltrator sabotage?).

And Arnold's response is hyperbole.

The whole episode makes me sick.

Question for anybody: Is there any truth to this paragraph, or is this just rubbish?
42 posted on 10/21/2006 7:17:46 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (McClintock for Lt. Governor; Strickland for Controller; Poochigian for AG; Mountjoy for Senate)
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I'm SURE he's aware of the legal status of most of the citizens in SA too?


50 posted on 10/21/2006 8:00:21 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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