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To: I'll be your Huckleberry

I will be watching just to see how the smoking thing goes. I don't smoke, but something about banning smoking just gets on my nerves.


15 posted on 10/21/2006 1:41:45 PM PDT by YdontUleaveLibs (Reason is out to lunch. How may I help you?)
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To: YdontUleaveLibs


IMHO, zero chance of passage.

We are still the wild west, and do not take kindly to a lot of rules.

You can buy liquor 24 hours a day 365 days a year.

You can gamble, vist the Bunny Ranch, shoot your gun in the hills and legally bet on the Bears.

Zero chance of passage.

Huck


17 posted on 10/21/2006 1:46:58 PM PDT by I'll be your Huckleberry
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LAS VEGAS — Neither of two competing measures on next month's ballot to restrict smoking in Nevada dares to prohibit smoking in casinos. The gaming-floor exemption to both smoking-ban proposals reflects Nevada's libertarian attitude toward compulsive behavior and the understanding that smoking, drinking and gambling go hand in hand.

Preventing gamblers from smoking, the assumption goes, would be bad for business, and therefore bad for the state. Some gaming insiders are quietly worried that in the next decade, a wave of public opinion may be calling for a total ban on casino smoking. But evidence suggests that Nevada could acclimate to nonsmoking casinos and that the gaming industry could actually benefit by it over the long haul — while cutting casino employees' health risks.

Question 5 on the ballot would ban smoking in most venues save for casino gaming floors. The initiative exempts bars that don't serve meals, although most Nevada bars — partly to comply with a law allowing slot machines in bars only if gaming is "incidental" to business — also prepare food.
Question 4, backed by gaming interests as a response to Question 5, would ban smoking in retail stores, galleries, libraries, museums and similar places that already tend to be nonsmoking, while allowing bars as well as grocery stores and convenience stores with slots to continue to accommodate smokers in those gambling alcoves.

If both petitions get more than half of the vote, the petition with more votes would win.

The gaming industry's opposition to smoking bans is based on anecdotal information about customer preferences and a longstanding belief that smokers, who tend to gamble more than nonsmokers, have a right to smoke. "It would make our job easier if no one smoked, but the fact is that they do," said Judy Patterson, executive director of the American Gaming Association. "We have to balance two sets of needs." To accommodate nonsmokers, some casinos have improved their ventilation systems, leading to noticeably cleaner air. But not all casinos can afford to install the latest technology.

While there are long-standing assumptions that a smoking ban would hurt the casino industry, there is substantial evidence suggesting that smoking bans do not hurt businesses — and over time might help them. The casino trade publication Global Gaming Business will soon report a study it commissioned concluding that casinos might pick up more business than they would lose if they banned smoking. In one poll, 31 percent of casino customers questioned indicated they would visit casinos more often if they were smoke-free, compared with 11 percent who said they would patronize another casino that allowed smoking, according to Global Gaming Business Editor Roger Gros. "Most casino executives realize that the horse has left the barn and they're going to have to consider (a smoking ban) now or later," he said.

Dozens of studies indicate that the effects of smoking bans on bars and restaurants in other states, while perhaps not as rosy as some anti-smoking groups would submit, aren't nearly as gloom-and-doom as predicted. Government-funded, peer-reviewed studies by academics tend to conclude that smoking bans have had a neutral-to-positive effect on business. Studies funded by the tobacco industry or other business groups suggest the opposite, by downplaying the potential increase in business over time from nonsmoking customers.

Casino executives have not needed to weigh in on the issue so far, because of successful efforts over the years to fend off smoking restrictions. "We don't buy the premise that this is California or New York," said Ron Drake, owner of the Point After Lounge in Las Vegas and a board member of the Nevada Tavern Owners Association, which is backing Question 4. "This is a unique economy based on gaming revenue. Smoking is very much a part of (gamblers') lives."


29 posted on 10/30/2006 6:45:36 AM PST by I'll be your Huckleberry
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