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The Real Climate Change Catastrophe
Townhall ^ | 10/21/06 | Paul Driessen

Posted on 10/21/2006 5:44:49 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher

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The mere fact that there've not been the numerous and strong hurricanes this season that were predicted should tell us something....
1 posted on 10/21/2006 5:44:50 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher
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To: Molly Pitcher

All I know is that if Al Gore starts ranting about the global warming thing again, I am ordering a load of firewood.


2 posted on 10/21/2006 5:46:53 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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The mere fact that there've not been the numerous and strong hurricanes this season that were predicted should tell us something....

It tells us nothing about global warming.

As did last year's record season. While we had hurricane after hurricane in the Atlantic, there was a dearth of typhoons in the West Pacific, where there normally are dozens every year. And for all the claims that the number of strong storms have increased, other scientists have pointed out that we had limited sat data 30 years ago and it's apples to oranges to compare that timeline.

3 posted on 10/21/2006 5:49:15 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: Molly Pitcher

The lack of hurricanes hitting the US has shown that there is/was a speculative bubble in oil prices.


4 posted on 10/21/2006 5:51:46 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Miss Marple

LOL! Sounds good to me


5 posted on 10/21/2006 5:53:42 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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Yes, it tells us nothing about global warming and something about their prediction models...

What are the assumptions these models are based on?

I travel a lot...so 5-7 days before leaving for my destination, I start paying attention to the weather predictions there...9 out of 10 times, the forecasts are off to some degree or another. So why do I still persist, you may ask! LOL!

6 posted on 10/21/2006 5:58:30 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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Good points and this shows that the facts cannot be ignored...or extrapolated to outcomes that are less then certain. And certainly means, as the author states, we should NOT be hampering humankind and industry that might do more to hurt the poor among us and cause massive economic hardships without knowing if the "fix" actually fixes.

The pretensiveness of the eco-dogooders is startling. The arrogance of turning science into a political position should bother us all. This really isn't that different, as Michael Crichton points out, than the massive scientific "proof" for eugenics that led to the Nazi governemnt-led murder of thousands of feeblemined and other less fortunate folks.

7 posted on 10/21/2006 6:03:09 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Irrespect of hurricanes, the news yesterday was about the "Ozone Hole". This year it's bigger than ever ~ a regular record buster ~ and the reason given is that the atmosphere around and over Antarctica is colder than ever ~ record breaking!

I listened to the news-readers gloss right over that one ~ colder than ever ~ while associating the "Ozone Hole" with "Global Warming".

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8 posted on 10/21/2006 6:03:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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I am always *intrigued* by those, that when confronted by "colder than normal" events, also blame THAT on "global warming".


9 posted on 10/21/2006 6:15:34 AM PDT by L`enn
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No hurricane activity here where I live, Florida. Explanations such as return of El Nino and better weather off African coast have been given


10 posted on 10/21/2006 6:18:57 AM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do")
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Since it apparently did no good to put excorcists to work on advancing glacierd, this time lets assign them to algore et al.


11 posted on 10/21/2006 6:33:19 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Molly Pitcher

"Global warming" is just another effort to create an industry out of fear.


12 posted on 10/21/2006 6:39:27 AM PDT by JennysCool
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When I was a kid waaaaaay back in the mid 50's to early '60's a pair of new Ice Skates was almost guaranteed as a Christmas present - and almost immediately used.

And usually right after Thanksgiving outdoor Ice Rinks opened up and the Chicago Park Distrait started putting up the Warming Shacks and making the skating rinks in the Parks (along with putting up the No Skating signs by the Lagoons).

And the Winters, man they were brutal. Tires Chains were 'almost' a standard accessory on a 57 Chevy. BUT NO MORE. Now ponds rarely freeze over, the rinks of the CPD are ancient history and 'what's a tire chain' is the response for anyone in their late 30's early 40's.

This can only be due to ONE THING - the Japanese! Yep, I'm series. As soon as Japanese import cars started appearing our Winters went away. Think about it, the Jap cars back then couldn't survive a Northern Climate winter, then the bad winters just disappeared.

I find this coincidence very suspicious. So I bet there's a weather machine buried deep inside Mount Fuji and they are controlling the weather - just so they can sell us a Toyota!

13 posted on 10/21/2006 6:57:39 AM PDT by Condor51 ("lot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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When they talk about temperature change, the change is so tiny that it could easily be inaccurate for thousands of reasons. If you take the historic temp of 200 cities, but fail to note, for example, that the official temperature for Chicago used to be Midway Arport, but now is measured at O'Hare (slightly warmer than Midaway), that is enough of an error to skew the average and suggest serious global warming.
14 posted on 10/21/2006 7:25:06 AM PDT by cookcounty (The Enemy stages the news because CNN stooges the news.)
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Hey! Today's the day I fire up the truck ('84 Chev Blazer, if theres more than a teaspoon of gas in her, she'll start) and go to the supply joint for a tons of pellets.


15 posted on 10/21/2006 7:32:17 AM PDT by djf (I'm not ISLAMOPHOBIC, just BOMBOPHOBIC!! Whether that's the same is up to Islam!!!)
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To: Condor51; cookcounty
oh you 2 brought back some memories:

we moved to s. Cook County in June '60 from the Texas Gulf Coast - yes the first winters were brutal - and NOT just because of where we'd come from...but not just cold, there was lots of snow, too! Our driveway by Feb, had these fortress-like snow walls...

then it warmed up, and cooled down a few more cycles that I've experienced in such places as Louisiana and Ohio over the years...so what to take from this? Difficult to say, but the impetus behind the Global Warming pushers is statism and control. That's about the only conclusion I can draw.

Good point, cook county, about the location of the temp measurements that are made.

16 posted on 10/21/2006 8:02:40 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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Oh-oh.
Maybe I didn't get such a deal on my new Pantasomic Pleasme television. In hindsight I knew I should have opted for the Toastsheba brand. Oh well.

(if I ever see that guy with the 84 Dodge van again, I'm gonna kick his butt)

BTW, anyone want to buy a Rolex watch? I got real good deal on them (no - different guy, different Van).



/s

17 posted on 10/21/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by Condor51 ("lot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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This is all true, but the group thinkers are too far down the global warming path to think about a change in direction.


18 posted on 10/21/2006 8:40:56 AM PDT by The Raven (Coal is 70% carbon and it's already sequestered.)
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They got the policy right, but their data is all wrong.

the Southern Hemisphere has not warmed in the past 25 years

That's totally incorrect

19 posted on 10/21/2006 8:45:40 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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1592 — Galileo Galilei builds a crude thermometer using the contraction of air to draw water up a tube

1612 — Santorio Sanctorius puts thermometer to medical use

1629 — Joseph Solomon Delmedigo describes in a book an accurate sealed-glass thermometer which uses brandy

1643 — Evangelista Torricelli invents the mercury barometer

1714 — Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit invents the mercury-in-glass thermometer

1821 — Thomas Johann Seebeck invents the thermocouple

1864 — Henri Becquerel suggests an optical pyrometer

1885 — Calender-Van Duesen invented the platinum resistance temperature device

1892 — Henri-Louis Le Châtelier builds the first optical pyrometer

So lets get this straight.... the thermometer has only been in use for about 300 years

according to the "geniuses", the earth is millions of years old

recorded history is only about 6,000 years old, (maybe more if you count cave paintings).

Yet, a small group of scientists and nearly ALL leftist politicians are convinced that man is the cause of "Global Warming"

and in spite of the fact that just one of the hundreds of annual Volcanic eruptions emits more greenhouse gas than all of the industrial pollution combined at any given time

sheesh but I am just a stupid construction worker what would I know

20 posted on 10/21/2006 8:45:58 AM PDT by KTM rider ( "It's time for conservites to take back the republican party" Goldwater64)
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