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" I don't think anybody lies in this subject. Lying means knowing the truth and telling something else"

Hadn't you heard? Roe v Wade was based on lies about the circumstances in Roe's life.

Well, she lied. Either then, or now. Okay, so she did. That doesn't mean that "pro-choicers lie" in general.

The sperm already a "living thing of some kind" and so is the egg.

So are skin cells, or white blood cells.

Exactly. But you see, you can't have it both ways. You can't say that "BECAUSE the zygote is a living cell, it is a full human being", but at the same time the appendix is not. The only way around that, that the appendix is not intelligent tissue.
But nor is the zygote, it is only a potential intelligent tissue. And that's where the intelligence comes into the question, which is a pro-choice dogma. And we came a full circle (of inherent contradiction).

"I am not an anti-lifer, only I see the scientific basis for the dispute"

Me, too.
And I realize that it is unscientific to confuse living cells with living beings.

Exactly. So, don't confuse a single cell, called zygote with a living BEING. At most, it is a potential living being (yes, I know, I acknowledge that). But then, so is the sperm and the egg. You likened it with the skin cells and the white blood cells. I agreed, but the skin cells will never turn into a human being. So, the potentiality is no longer present,while it is present in the sperm and the egg. But then, the zygote is not the beginning of life. It is either even before that, or in my humble opinion, there is no such thing as beginning of life, it is continuous. Just as in the single cell beings. Human, meiosis, sperm or egg, conception/mitosis, zygote, human and the cycle continues forever.

"That's why I suggested the compromise,"

Compromise?
As in "split the baby in half" -- like King Solomon's (faked) compromise.
As in "decimate" -- like a Roman general ordering the killing of only one out of ten of the troops?
We don't usually make compromises like that in the modern world.
We might do "triage" but we don't deliberately kill.

Yes we do. Capital punishment, wars, military, police, justifiable homicide, self-defense, etc. And as I said, it is either compromise, or as you mentioned it, the modern world will NOT go back to the morals of the 17th century. Whether it was right or wrong, it is immaterial, the modern world will not go back. So, it is either 1.5 million abortion a year (in USA), or perhaps 1/10th of that (or even less).It will never turn into zero. Unless of course somebody invents the perfect birth control. Speaking of which,I find it "slightly suspicious" that I mentioned birth control twice, and you didn't react at all.

Gabor