To: syriacus
I pull together several of your posts to me, since the concept is the same:
The article you point to refer to an extremely rare situation: a twin pregnancy where one is intrauterine, the other is ectopic.
I thought it referred to instances where there was merely one preganancy --- in a tube.
The conclusion is a mistake, since the twin ectopic is equally overlooked often, in both situations (abortion or pregnancy intended to be carried to term).
I don't think they are referring to twin pregnancies.
One thing is for sure: to blame the undiagnosed twin ectopic on the abortion itself, is ridiculous.
You seem to be the only one mentioning twins.
Proper post-abortion pathology reports would detect that no embryo was removed from the uterus, and would clue the abortionist in to the fact that the pregnancy was ectopic.
I never went to medical school, but my math is okay.
1 fetus + 0 fetus = 1 fetus (not twins)
The coroner blamed Sherry's death on the fact that Water Tower threw fetal remains away without a pathology analysis. However, the police found that Sherry had a reciept from Water Tower indicating a $50 discount. They hypothesized that staff might have noted the lack of a fetus in the aspirator, concluded that Sherry hadn't been pregnant, and given her a partial refund.
It's very sad that it takes the death of a woman to reveal shoddy practices in an abortion clinic.
True, I didn't think of such gross malpractice. But this is an individual bad case, not the typical. Abortions are either done based on an existing ultrasound proven pregnancy, or if not, they send whatever they scraped out for pathology. Therefore, in case of an ectopic pregnancy, either and empty uterus is diagnosed before (if ultrasound), or no fetal tissue after (if pathology).
Since I am a gynecologist who is practicing for 27 years without any major problem (although I don't do abortions), it didn't even cross my mind that an abortionist would not identify the pregnancy neither before, nor after, that's why the also very rare twin pregnancy came to my mind, where one is intrauterine, the other is ectopic. Those are the tragic cases, since it is extremely difficult to diagnose. Ultrasound before doesn't help much, since once the intrauterine pregnancy is visualized, and there are no symptoms of ectopic (mostly pain), radiologists seldom search the Fallopian tubes for an ectopic. After the abortion, the pathologist will identify fetal tissue and that's the end of proper medical channels. Yet, an ectopic can continue to grow and later rupture.
Gabor
44 posted on
10/22/2006 2:03:59 PM PDT by
Casio
To: Casio
I pull together several of your posts to me, since the concept is the same: Sorry about the number of posts.
It took me some time to gather my thoughts and to realize how thoroughly you dismissed this idea that abortions on women with ectopic pregnancies can lead to fatalities. I think it's understandable that I was taken aback. I have no medical background, and you say you have one, so I doubted what my own eyes told me the article actually said.
I can imagine that multiple pregnancies, such as you describe, in which one twin settles in the fallopian tube and the other settles in the uterus, are very rare.
It's important to make sure that everyone, especially the occasional slap-dash abortionist, is aware of the very real risks involved for women with ectopic pregnancies who seek abortions.
You wrote: One thing is for sure: to blame the undiagnosed twin ectopic on the abortion itself, is ridiculous.
45 posted on
10/23/2006 6:05:32 AM PDT by
syriacus
(LORD, bless the good people of Iraq and our troops AND confound those who plot evil against them..)
To: Casio
Abortions are either done based on an existing ultrasound proven pregnancy, or if not, they send whatever they scraped out for pathologyAccording to the articles I cited above....some of the women died because either the uterine contents were not sent out to a lab and/or the abortuary staff failed to notify the woman that there had been no fetus in her uterus.
47 posted on
10/23/2006 6:42:12 AM PDT by
syriacus
(LORD, bless the good people of Iraq and our troops AND confound those who plot evil against them..)
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