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SINCGARS Radio System Remains Secure, Expert Says
American Forces Press Service ^ | Jim Garamone

Posted on 10/19/2006 4:52:14 PM PDT by SandRat

WASHINGTON, Oct. 19, 2006 – U.S. servicemembers can use the SINCGARS radio system with confidence, officials with the Army’s Communications-Electronics Command at Fort Monmouth, N.J., said today.

James Bowden, project leader for the single-channel ground and airborne radio system, said recent media articles claim that Hezbollah used advanced technology to crack Israeli communications during the fighting in Lebanon.

The articles allege that the group used technology from Iran to thwart Israeli tank attacks, Bowden said, adding that some servicemembers have expressed the fear that Hezbollah or Iran has shared this technology with extremists in Iraq.

But the articles are wrong, Bowden asserted. The Israelis do not use the U.S. SINCGARS system, but rather they use another frequency-hopping technology, he said.

Frequency hopping means messages switch among dozens of frequencies per second to evade being jammed or intercepted, Bowden said.

“We are concerned, because these articles lead people to think that SINCGARS is vulnerable, and that this technology is available to bad guys,” Bowden said. “This is not the case. The Israelis do not have SINCGARS radios. They have another frequency-hopping radio that does not have the U.S. frequency-hopping algorithm, does not use the U.S. communications security devices and does not use the U.S. transmission security devices. All three provide robust protection for U.S. SINCGARS.”

Those three pieces of the SINCGARS provide servicemembers with assured communications security when they follow proper communications procedures, Bowden said. Servicemembers deploying to Iraq should take all normal precautions, but they do not need to distrust their communications, he said.

He said some soldiers have called the office with concerns about communications security in light of these articles. “We want to make it clear that they do not have a problem,” he said. “SINCGARS is the robust type of communications they need to protect against these kinds of threats.”

His office has sent messages to the field with this same information. Servicemembers with questions or concerns should e-mail Bowden at James.Bowden@us.army.mil. He noted that he has been working on SINCGARS since the 1980s and can answer any questions about it.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: radios; secure; sincgars
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1 posted on 10/19/2006 4:52:17 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...
FR WAR NEWS!

WAR News You'll Hear Nowhere Else!

All the News the MSM refuses to use!

2 posted on 10/19/2006 4:52:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

A lot of good a secure radio system does when washington traitors leak like sieves and Chicom operatives work freely all over our country.


3 posted on 10/19/2006 4:59:29 PM PDT by petertare (!)
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To: SandRat
I remember getting trained on SINCGARS and for the first time in my life getting all misty eyed and nostalgic for the relative simplicity of the PRC-77.

Ah, progress.

4 posted on 10/19/2006 5:01:04 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

heck even when you have the proper access the sincgars don't communicate.


5 posted on 10/19/2006 5:52:21 PM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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To: Thud

ping


6 posted on 10/19/2006 6:08:37 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Hoplite

I'd take the SINCGARS over the prick any day. It's algorithm is unbreakable, at least for another several hundred years.


7 posted on 10/19/2006 6:34:34 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: phoenix0468
It's algorithm is unbreakable, at least for another several hundred years.

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8 posted on 10/19/2006 7:15:28 PM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Snickersnee

Hey, get your numbers set properly and you'll understand me, HEHE.


9 posted on 10/19/2006 7:19:10 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: SandRat

For more fun do a search with the keywords
direct sequence, spread spectrum, pseudorandom, frequency hopping radio.

Some pretty amazing rigs out there today and very secure.


10 posted on 10/19/2006 8:40:18 PM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: SandRat; Dog; Marine_Uncle; dead; section9

The problem is not the content of Israeli communications, which remains secure.

Instead, the problem is that the electromagnetic radio energy emitted by Israeli vehicular traffic can be detected by common civilian spectrum analyzers, giving a bearing and heading (if moving) with primitive radio Direction Finding (DF) techniques.

HARM missiles use your radio emissions to home in and destroy your own radars. Likewise, your radio communications can give away your physical location, even if your enemy doesn't know what you are saying.


11 posted on 10/19/2006 8:53:34 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ASOC

AFCEA Member and I was a SIGO with the 5M ASI my entire active career.


12 posted on 10/19/2006 10:05:52 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
U.S. communications security devices and does not use the U.S. transmission security devices

And that, not the different frequency hopping algorithm, is what makes SINGARS secure. Although I would have though the Israelis would have something similar and probably about as good. Unless they were too cheap to buy it for all their radios prior to the Lebanon battles, which wouldn't surprise me. I read where the USAF is swapping radios from A-10s belonging to units rotating out of theater to those deploying, because due to budget cuts, they only bought 51 radios, for the 356 A-10s.

13 posted on 10/19/2006 10:17:11 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Hoplite
I remember getting trained on SINCGARS and for the first time in my life getting all misty eyed and nostalgic for the relative simplicity of the PRC-77

Wait til you see the new JTRS radio (pronounced "jitters").

14 posted on 10/19/2006 10:21:29 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Your statement on the A-10 radio swap is correct.


15 posted on 10/19/2006 10:24:26 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: El Gato
If the JTRS weighs 9 lbs as advertised, then the additional headache (if any) of getting the thing to work will probably be worth it - my biggest gripe about the SINCGARS was that the added functionality left it (if memory serves) taking up as much space in my ruck and weighing as much as the 23 lb PRC-77.

Ha! Now I remember that any weight and space savings were always taken up with more ammo and batteries, so who am I kidding?

= )

16 posted on 10/19/2006 11:04:31 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: El Gato
"And that, not the different frequency hopping algorithm, is what makes SINGARS secure."

But being secure is not the same as being stealthy. SINCGARS isn't stealthy. Its radio emissions can be detected with century-old radio Direction Finding (DF) techniques combined with modern spectrum analyzers.

Thus, while an enemy might not know what you are saying (your communications are secure, after all), it doesn't take too much for him to know where you are transmitting.

17 posted on 10/20/2006 10:52:19 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
"...Likewise, your radio communications can give away your physical location, even if your enemy doesn't know what you are saying."
Good follow up to what you had to say a few weeks back on this issue. To much disinformation being put out that confuses people.
18 posted on 10/20/2006 4:33:41 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Hoplite

Wait till you see the MBITRS JEM radio. It's the handheld JTRS radio. Slick piece of gear, but expensive as hell.


19 posted on 10/20/2006 4:37:44 PM PDT by rangerX (Sua Sponte)
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To: SandRat

When you combine freq hop and comsec fills and change them every week, I don't see how we have anything to worry about, other than limited range in cities.


20 posted on 10/21/2006 5:56:32 PM PDT by Axhandle
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