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| Declan McCullagh
Posted on 10/18/2006 8:33:53 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten
FBI Director Robert Mueller on Tuesday called on Internet service providers to record their customers' online activities, a move that anticipates a fierce debate over privacy and law enforcement in Washington next year. F@#$ the FBI director and what he wants. I didn't pay an ISP to be spied on.
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posted on
10/18/2006 8:59:27 AM PDT
by
Centurion2000
("Be polite and courteous, but have a plan to KILL everybody you meet.")
To: E. Pluribus Unum
The data storage capabilities required to do this would dwarf anything else out there. Why not require phone companies to record all conversations, too, just in case the FBI wants to listen to them?
Sheesh! This is beginning to sound like the ultra-paranoid efforts of the Stasi!
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:00:39 AM PDT
by
TChris
(The United Nations is suffering from delusions of relevance.)
To: Dr. Marten
[Democrat legislation author Diana] DeGette sought to allay concerns raised by privacy advocates about the approach, adding, "I'm concerned about privacy considerations, too, especially in light of what I believe to be illegal surveillance of telephone records by this administration." Why are the Republicans (Ed Whitfield, chairman of the House Energy and Commerce oversight and investigations subcommittee, and Joe Barton, chairman of the full committee) giving this moon bat the time of day?
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:02:00 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
To: sgtbono2002
In all fairness, this whole snooping issues predates Mueller, but this does not in any way excuse him from this latest absurdity.
The FBI already have "Magic lantern" as a follow up to long existing snooping programs... Eschelon has been ever popular outside the US, not to mention Carnivore as well....
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:10:32 AM PDT
by
USF
(I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
To: Dr. Marten
From a technical standpoint, doable, but I believe very expensive.
You would need some sort of passive tap system at all switch uplink ports to capture and redirect traffic to a storage server. Switch hardware and software will also dictate whether you can do ingress, as well as egress captures of traffic.
Or, you could rely on software to do port mirroring of traffic to a storage server connected to a port on the switch.
The storage requirements would be enormous.
A note that this is already the law in higher ed (e.g. CALEA). See http://www.educause.edu/Browse/645?PARENT_ID=698 for more info.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:10:50 AM PDT
by
Fury
To: Fury
It's definitely doable. All they have to do is follow the Chinese model (obviously the testing ground for what was to come here).
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:13:29 AM PDT
by
Dr. Marten
(http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com)
To: JamesP81
>>>This is one thing that is so egregious that I really would vote out a republican that supported it. Whatever happened to getting a search warrant?>>>
All they have to do is say "Terrorist" and people just go 'Ok, please protect me'.
Stupid people.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:24:37 AM PDT
by
sandbar
To: JamesP81
Whatever happened to getting a search warrant?
Search warrants are so pre-9/11.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:29:42 AM PDT
by
drjimmy
To: Dr. Marten
Say NO to Herr Gonzales' obsession with porn. Let him stop investigating us, Lewis Libby and Curt Weldon, and start arresting executives who hire illegal aliens by the hundreds. Start defending the damn border. Oh, I forgot, Herr Gonzales gets his order from Mexico City. Never mind.
To: Dr. Marten
Just the government trying to control the internet. I won't vote for anyone who tries to backdoor this kind of crap in under the guise of protecting children. That's a democrat ploy.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:38:32 AM PDT
by
mysterio
To: LibWhacker
Everyone should be required to wear a GPS ankle bracelet too, 24/7, to keep track of where they go. Sheesh! Didn't you know? You've already got one if you have a cell phone clipped on your belt.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:45:07 AM PDT
by
seowulf
To: Dr. Marten
If the left gets back into power they will use this to find people who say "macaca" and get them fired and prosecuted for "hate crimes".
I am not fooling.
To: Dr. Marten
Maybe Glorious Leader in DC needs to remove plank from own eyes. Like the Department of Homeland Deputy Press Secretary who used the Internet to pick up young girls. The GOP and Bush Lackeys are quickly becoming as bad or worse than the Dems. What next speaking ill of the Crown or political disagreement results in your ISP records being examined?
These sorry lying power grabbing JB thugs. All they have to do is write down the ISP of the site and go from there. If they want to find illicit material then they should put two chimps on a computer typing in random URL's and they'll likely find it within an hour. This is all about controlling our lives. The government leadership could care less about da children.
It's a sad day when the GOP is now the enabling party for the likes of these. Good old fashioned police work by surfing the net and acting on it fine. That has been proved to work. Keeping records on law abiding citizens for future usage? NO! Jay Edgar Hoover would be so proud of the FBI Director and Little Caesar our USAG.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:51:59 AM PDT
by
cva66snipe
(If it was wrong for Clinton why do some support it for Bush? Party over nation destroys the nation.)
To: Dr. Marten
The analogy of a frog in boiling water comes to mind.
Also, the genie out of the bottle.
This is a very bad idea.
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posted on
10/18/2006 9:58:33 AM PDT
by
Pete
To: HereInTheHeartland
Can't they just get all the data from the NSA? LOL!
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posted on
10/18/2006 10:32:50 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
To: Fighting Irish
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posted on
10/18/2006 12:53:59 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(Illegal immigration Control and US Border Security - The jobs George W. Bush refuses to do.)
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