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[pipecorp]

fukayumama? sp?

[divine_moment_of_facts]

"Fukuyama" sounds like a Screen Name some Liberal would have! LOL!

[Zeppo]

And I have always been more of a Marxist, in the sense that I believe that democracy comes about as a result of a long-term process of modernization that's driven by forces within each society but that you can't speed up that process from the outside.

Seems that Japan would be a rather strikingly obvious contradiction of that belief, huh...

[GOP_1900AD]

He's now backtracking. It is clear that the utopia that Clintoon, Fukuyama, Gore, T.L. Friedman and other various and sundry transnational progressives planned as of the early to mid 90s is not to be. The world appears to be returning to a another cycle similar to the one which occurred 1895 - 1945. The death of the nation state has been declared prematurely. Globalism is in its last hurrah for quite a while and various centralizations of power are imminent.

[Uncledave]

He wants a mulligan

[coconutt2000]

Fukuyama: Well, no. I think that the Bush administration, to the extent that they thought they were using my ideas, really misunderstood them.... They were really Leninists because they believe that they would use power to advance democracy. And I have always been more of a Marxist, in the sense that I believe that democracy comes about as a result of a long-term process of modernization that's driven by forces within each society but that you can't speed up that process from the outside. And so to the extent that they thought that 's what I was arguing, I think they misunderstood what I was saying.

Most certainly history contradicts the professor's assertions. Democracy is almost always imposed, and the so-called Marxist growth of democracy is not feasible in light of the fact that non-democratic governments will always resist democratization to the hilt. His views are idealistic and don't take into account the rigid and forceful nature of oligarchies and autocracies.

If democracies are not imposed from without, they must be imposed from within. The United States revolutionary war was promoted, fought, and won by only a third of the inhabitants of the 13 original colonies. The other two thirds were either ambivalent, or opposed to breaking away from England. And when it came time to set up a government a fair number argued for and wanted to establish a new monarchy, or oligarchy in deference to the system they had just broken away from.

It is however true that the institutions and cultural hooks that support a democracy must be nurtured and supported from within, with growth in confidence and belief in the systems growing over time. But without the initial imposition of democratic institutions from within or without, the necessary environment for the growth of confidence in a democratic government cannot exist.

We've seen where liberal ideas on the growth of democracies have led us, with the collapse of the third world's democratic governments, and the rise of autocratic governments in the third world. The premature termination of colonial rule led directly to the weak democratic institutions that eventually collapsed or gave way to anarchy, thus paving the way for autocratic governments. In the decades following WWII the proper method of decolonization should've been slow and based on constant monitoring of the local governmental institutions for corruption and effectiveness. Beginning with the handing over of local governments, and the slow transition of the national governments to local rule. Instead we had a haphazard, happy go lucky divestiture of territory to inadequately supported, highly corruptible post-colonial governments, which has led to the rise of Islamic radicalism as a substitute for law and order in the lawless regions of Asia and Africa.

We are observing the results of bad, liberal/socialist policies and not the results of the European crusades.