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CBS News: Good Economic News Doesn't Help GOP
CBS News ^ | 10/16/06 | Dotty Lynch

Posted on 10/17/2006 10:30:53 AM PDT by presidio9

Gas prices are down, the stock market is at a record high and 60 percent of Americans say the economy is in good shape. So why are Republicans in so much trouble?

I've been asked this in the past week by several (mostly rich) Democrats and Republicans, so I picked the brains of a number of pollsters. Kathy Frankovic, director of surveys for CBS News, pointed to the finding in the CBS News/New York Times poll conducted Oct. 5 to 8, which said that despite the increase in the number of people saying the economy was in good shape, they were not optimistic about the future. Only 19 percent said the economy was getting better, and by a 51 percent to 36 percent margin people picked the Democrats over the Republicans as the party which would ensure a good economy.

Democratic pollster Geoff Garin says "the only economic statistics that matter right now are flat incomes and still more than a majority of voters feel they are falling behind economically. New jobs aren't as good as the jobs we lost and any gains aren't trickling down to the middle class. And voters feel that the economic outlook is glum for the next generation."

In fact, the recent CBS/Times poll found that 46 percent said they were making just enough to get by and another 17 percent said that they weren't making enough to pay their bills. Only a third of Americans said they had more than enough to get by.

Nonpartisan congressional election analyst Charlie Cook reads the polls the same way and says that Iraq and a feeling that the Republicans have been in power too long are dominating the economy as an issue this year, and that many Americans feel they are working harder and harder but not getting ahead.

But what about gas prices? Republican pollster David Winston has long thought they were a big source of Republican woes and if they came down Republicans would have an easier time of it. Cook feels gas prices seem to have "hurt Republicans when they were going up and helped when they were going down," but that the phenomenon was "distinct from a broader economic concern that the Republicans were favoring the other economy that has been doing so well." Democratic pollster Diane Feldman took it a step further. Her research has found that many voters "think the Republicans manipulate gas prices." Both she and Cook say the market is irrelevant to most voters.

In an important book published this fall, "Applebee’s America," the authors, Republican pollster Matthew Dowd, Democratic strategist Doug Sosnik and former AP political writer Ron Fournier, throw cold water on the "Economy Drives the Vote" theory. In a chapter entitled "Values Trump the Economy," they argue that people vote with their hearts not their heads and are hungry for a "gut value connection" with political leaders. Voters are searching for community and authenticity, and leaders who are able to persuade them that they care about voters and convince them that "we are all in this together" will be successful. On a panel in Washington last week, Fournier said that Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm was pulling ahead in the polls despite the terrible economy in her state because she made that connection on values.

"Applebee’s America" is a fascinating book and uses a huge amount of sophisticated polling and marketing techniques to demonstrate the thesis that values and culture beat issues and policies. However, several pollsters have argued that this is a false distinction. Geoff Garin contends that "issues have to be expressed in a language of values – but values without issues lose the transaction people look for in candidates, i.e., how are you going to make my life better."

The Bush administration and Republican candidates are still hoping that the good economic indicators, falling gas prices and issues like taxes and government spending will get through to voters in the final days of the campaign. But time is running out, and so far the voters' heads and hearts have been focusing on other issues and different solutions.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baghdadbobalert; bias; cbs; clintonrecession; clowncarmedia; democratmediaalert; fakebutaccurate; mediabias; seebsnews; wishfulthinking; wtfk
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To: Salvey

I remember the "terrible" economy under Bush I. Everybody was doing OK, but they were "worried about their neighbor." It was everywhere.


61 posted on 10/17/2006 11:48:34 AM PDT by AmishDude (Mwahahahahahahahaha -- official evil laugh of the North American Union)
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To: Elyse

To give credit where due, it's from Monty Python. The full Monty is here: http://www.ayup.co.uk/laugh/laugh0.html


62 posted on 10/17/2006 11:49:03 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: presidio9
In fact, the recent CBS/Times poll found that 46 percent said they were making just enough to get by and another 17 percent said that they weren't making enough to pay their bills. Only a third of Americans said they had more than enough to get by.

A lot of these economic problems would go away if people stopped living beyond their means. (and that goes for you too Capt. Tom) - tom

63 posted on 10/17/2006 11:52:11 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: presidio9
Her research has found that many voters "think the Republicans manipulate gas prices."

LOL! A couple of people think this, one of them being the writer, and it equates to "many!" The article contains the word "feel" 5 times, and the word "think" only once, and then inside of quotation marks. I don't vote on my feelings, I vote because I think. That is impossible for liberals to understand.

64 posted on 10/17/2006 11:53:32 AM PDT by webheart
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To: fhlh

"GOP created economy"???????

The GOP has been less of a burden on the economy than the DIMS. They have certainly NOT created it!


65 posted on 10/17/2006 12:09:06 PM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: presidio9
On a panel in Washington last week, Fournier said that Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm was pulling ahead in the polls despite the terrible economy in her state because she made that connection on values.

Or maybe because the liberal media in Michigan loves Aunt Jenny and hates millionaire former Amway owner Dick DeVos.

66 posted on 10/17/2006 12:12:08 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: b4its2late
In 1980 she took a leave of absence to work on the Presidential campaign of Sen. Edward Kennedy.

'nuff said. How in good conscience can See BS possibly make this woman their senior political analyst???

67 posted on 10/17/2006 12:14:59 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: conservative blonde
Why are articles like this even put up here to read?

If we don't call them on their media bias here, no one will.

68 posted on 10/17/2006 12:20:14 PM PDT by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

In other words, the American people are total morons......


69 posted on 10/17/2006 12:21:10 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: EagleUSA

My birds do ... I love to position certain politicians' pictures in just the spots that get the most action.

small pleasures ...


70 posted on 10/17/2006 12:25:46 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: presidio9

EFF SEE BEE ESS and the Donkey they rode in on!


71 posted on 10/17/2006 12:38:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Karl Rove you magnificent bastard!)
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To: b4its2late
Oh, yeah, ditsy Dotty is just yer typical unbiased MSM HACK:

"....where she worked on the polling for the Presidential campaigns of George McGovern and Jimmy Carter and for many Senate and Gubernatorial campaigns. In 1980 she took a leave of absence to work on the Presidential campaign of Sen. Edward Kennedy. In the 1980s Lynch developed the concept of the gender gap and is one of the major authorities on the topic of women in politics. In 1983 she opened Lynch Research, a political polling firm where she was the first women pollster in a Presidential campaign-the Gary Hart Presidential race and the Mondale Ferraro general election."
72 posted on 10/17/2006 1:00:16 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: Enchante

She seems to have a long history of working for losers.


73 posted on 10/17/2006 1:15:12 PM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: presidio9

And katie Couric doesn't help CBS.


74 posted on 10/17/2006 1:29:55 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: perez24
"She seems to have a long history of working for losers"

Yep, she sure turns up with many of the big turkeys of the past 35 years!!! Now is this mere correlation or also causation? And why does See-BS think a dolt like this actually knows anything?
75 posted on 10/17/2006 2:08:35 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: potlatch; MikeA; MeekOneGOP; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave; abb; bitt; Boazo; smoothsailing; ...




"That's because we at CBS and the rest of the
Clown Car Media don't bother to report it!"





76 posted on 10/17/2006 4:15:56 PM PDT by devolve (now_playing:__ MONEY HONEY -- Harry Reid)
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To: devolve

LOL, I like it! My words set to animation!


77 posted on 10/17/2006 4:21:13 PM PDT by MikeA (Foley has resigned. Bin Laden has not. That's what's at stake in this election, not some pervert.)
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To: A. Pole; Paleo Conservative

"the only economic statistics that matter right now are flat incomes and still more than a majority of voters feel they are falling behind economically. New jobs aren't as good as the jobs we lost and any gains aren't trickling down to the middle class. And voters feel that the economic outlook is glum for the next generation."

Indeed, this is what's between the lines. And conservatives do themselves no favor when they dismiss this economic trend.


78 posted on 10/17/2006 4:43:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: devolve

Wow, perfect set up for your great post! Looks really good there devolve!


79 posted on 10/17/2006 4:48:29 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: MikeA; potlatch


We here at LSLM love good straight lines............

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80 posted on 10/17/2006 4:48:59 PM PDT by devolve (now_playing:__ MONEY HONEY -- Harry Reid)
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