Alter Wishes for 'Demise' of 'Values Voters' in Fall Elections

MRC email ^ | 10-17-06 | Tim Graham

[DeweyCA]

Here is another example of the liberal media bias, and their absolute loathing of "values voters." The media really does hate Christian values, and do not want us to have a strong voice in our society. If they could do so, they would take away our right to vote.

[Dilbert56]

If you have to caveat "traditional values" by calling them "so called" traditional values, you don't support them.

[LonePalm]

Since when were liberals motivated by morals? They are, at best, amoral.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

[rzeznikj at stout]

Nah, we're talking five notches below unscrupulous...

A new world record...

[Sgt_Schultze]

Yes. This report brought to us by so-called journalist, Jonathan Alter.

[ModelBreaker]

if you are not with them on these issues, that you somehow [mock expression of horror] 'you don't share our values.'

But if lefties aren't with me on values issues, then they don't share my values. And I don't share theirs. That's what disagreements are made of.

They want us to pretend we don't disagree with them. But we do. And we disagree about values.

[freemankid]

With a last name like Alter, and a good Christian name like Jonathan, he also probably hates his own name.

[Minn. 4 Bush]

I can honestly say there is no one in the print press I dislike more than Jonathan Alter. He is the epitome of the elitist left-wing liberal class that doesn't have a clue as to how the rest of the country lives.

[siunevada]

You know, there are a lot of reports that they are going to stay home which is bad news for the Republicans.

If libbys were ever to pray for anything, this would be it. Surrender your Congressional districts!

[SaltyJoe]

Republicans make better examples of "love the sinner, hate the sin."

[noodler]

Thank you for the time to post and bring understanding to this other course.Truly our strengths are to be turned against us as wedges. If folks were not not hauled off to prison for merely listening what the 'rats and lawyers talk in their dens we would have more view of their tactics.These meetings are held higher than National security issues. Fact.

[Zack Nguyen]

Alter isn't sick of "values" having a definition. He's sick of it having a conservative definition.

Precisely. The left is doing exactly what we do, all the while claiming that we are illegitimate for doing it.

We reason from our value set; they reason from theirs. It's called politics and is at the heart of our democratic system. But the left won't recognize the other side as at least legitimate. It is a formula for the long term disruption of our democracy.

[1FreeAmerican]

Values aren't a slice of the American Pie- they are the key ingredient.

[A Strict Constructionist]

He's just a alterBOY carrying water for he RATS he must have been molested by a priest, there must be some reason for the hate./s The name Alter gives meaning to the need for ALTERnative media and why we should all find ALTERnate sources for our news.

This is fun. We should start a contest.

[noodler]

I would say that you are incorrect for the left Does Not do what we do but in context, okay. The ramifications are different of course which is why the outing of Foley works well. Were he a dem they would have rallied around him. All the homo wing and nambla wing and every other pervert dem voter would have defended his service. So we have to rip him out because he's not pure enough for us and we must be sparkly pure towards dems while they spit in our wounds.

[NYFriend]

Here's the rub as I see it. I don't want a government run by amoral people, people who can't be trusted. If you can't keep your hands off other people's money, or keep your vows to your wife, why should I trust you with the great powers of government? That my mean you have a concept of right and wrong that you believe was handed down by your deity, or it might be the result of careful introspection, or the culmination of three thousand years of Western philosophy. I don't much care why you do the right thing, so long as you do so.

On the other hand, not only don't I want to live in a theocracy of any sort. I don't want want the government prescribing and proscribing acts when it's not necessary. I do not want a government to impose even my own preferences on me and my neighbors. The rub is in how you decide what's necessary. I think the best idea we ever came up with with choosing people who loved liberty and freedom to make those decisions for us. It didn't work perfectly, but it worked.

So, given the choice between voting for a saint who wanted to solve my problems for me, and a guy who, while not a criminal and not untrustworthy, had feet of clay, but believed that people should, whenever possible, make their own decisions and their own living, who do I vote for?

I guess that means I'm not a values voter?

[Zack Nguyen]

Well, I have no problem with tossing out Foley. It may have been more than what the Democrats would have done (though in this political climate today they may have been forced to throw him out) but Foley did the right thing in resigning. While true that Republicans tend tohandle these things better than Democrats, complaining about a double standard is whistling in the wind. We are the values party, and will be held to that standard.

[The_Reader_David]

Odd, I've always thought of the word 'values' as a liberal weasel-word.

It's what sociologists call things other cultures regard as virtues so they don't have to take a stand on whether they are virtuous or not.

It's what Nietzsche called virtues and vices so he could transpose the two in his 'transvaluation of values' to call charity vice and cruelty virtue.

I hate it when conservatives use the word. We uphold VIRTUE, not 'traditional values', and should not be afraid of the word.

[noodler]

True.{ and as the donkey said(..whistling in the wind) the person asks "did you consume these nuggets"the tail lifts slightly, fffewwwwwwww..} How do you argue that? If it were up to me I would separate the Country and dems of thieves could all live in a pile governed by dems.