Boy Scouts face setback in Supreme Court

Associated Press ^ | 10/17/06

[Alberta's Child]

Unfortunately, this issue was not properly developed at trial, and therefore could not be presented to the Supreme Court.

So instead of blaming a Communist government and legal system for this, are you saying the Boy Scouts should be suing their own lawyer for his/her incompetence?

[goldstategop]

This is about outlawing traditional values. California's new SB 1441 law provides a blueprint for how to accomplish it. Which isn't just limited to the Boy Scouts.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[polymuser]

A BSA unit (pack, troop) exists as a chartered subgroup of an existing organization (church, civic organization, VFW post, etc.). Units seek chartering organizations agreeable with their cause, and the chartering organization agrees to the BSA's purposes in a signed charter document. A unit is financially under the auspices and on the books of their chartering organization. Also, the BSA receives unique regard from the U.S. Congress. Or used to, at least. But then, public schools used to teach from Christian bibles.

Those that have worked to neuter American men feel they're quite successful, and now target our sons.

[presidio9]

You're actually making a very good argument that a "public marina" shouldn't even exist in the first place.

Possibly, but that's a moot point, because it DOES, in fact exist. As long as it exists, the Scouts have as much right to it as any other organized group.

[polymuser]

Girl Scouts was lost years ago. New-age psycobabble abounds there.

[NutCrackerBoy]

The AP is engaged in bigoted reporting. The Boy Scouts are not engaging in "discrimination."

I thought about that. They definitely used the word to make an emotional point. But the AP statement is technically accurate. The policy is discriminatory. It is not morally, ethically, or legally wrong per se to discriminate in hiring. It depends on the nature of the thing and what group is involved.

Since the Boy Scouts discriminate against instating openly gay leaders, isn't that like the policy of the U.S. military (don't ask, don't tell)?

[Alberta's Child]

Those that have worked to neuter American men feel they're quite successful, and now target our sons.

All the more reason to raise our sons outside the grasp of any government or government-sponsored organization, right?

[polymuser]

That the Democrats led the assault on Scouting will be forever to their shame.

Now's a great time to make that point. Repeatedly.

As far as the activists, the book "After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90's" laid out the plan that is working so effectively for them.

[Alberta's Child]

As long as it exists, the Scouts have as much right to it as any other organized group.

Be careful what you wish for. Whenever the subject of a private organization's access to public assets comes up, I always present a hypothetical scenario in which a radical Islamic sect wants the same access to these public facilities as an organization like the Boy Scouts.

[LadyNavyVet]

Not in our homeschool Girl Scout troop. We start each meeting with the pledge, including "under God," and a patriotic song, usually "God Bless America." The Girl Scouts as a national organization is fairly PC, but that can be easily mitigated by the moms running the troop.

[Alberta's Child]

How ironic is it that people like that bunch of Muslim cab drivers who refuse to pick up passengers with alcohol and passengers with dogs may end up being this country's best line of defense against this radical homosexual agenda?

[kidd]

I wasn't aware that they had built a breakwater.

Any chance that they can sue Berkley for the value (or the cost) of the breakwater...then use the money to buy dock spaces?

[polymuser]

All the more reason to raise our sons outside the grasp of any government or government-sponsored organization, right?

Yep. And for an understanding of what's happened to our public schools, we must go back to mid-1900's The Frankfurt School and those peoples' plan. That's where the plan to subvert government schools and the tools of consensus building and sensitivity training were conceived. This stuff didn't just happen.

[linda_22003]

This was the appeal to SCOTUS, which refused to hear the case.

"The action let stand a unanimous California Supreme Court ruling".

[DollyCali]

did you see this?

[presidio9]

Whenever the subject of a private organization's access to public assets comes up, I always present a hypothetical scenario in which a radical Islamic sect wants the same access to these public facilities as an organization like the Boy Scouts.

And what makes you think the America-haters in Berkeley would have the slightest problem with a radical Islamic group?

[Alberta's Child]

And what makes you think the America-haters in Berkeley would have the slightest problem with a radical Islamic group?

They'll fear the radical Islamic group in a way that they would never fear ordinary Americans.

[TheCornerOffice]

I'm sorry to say that I was so shocked that I didn't have a ready reply and just stood there with my mouth open.

My son and I encountered a similar situation a couple of years ago while selling popcorn in our annual fund-raiser. A woman not only decided not to buy, but felt the need to assert that her reason was the "discrimination" against homosexuals.

My son listened carefully as I responded in a friendly voice, "You are certainly entitled to your opinion and we are certainly entitled to ours. Thanks for taking the time to let us know what you think."

That pretty much defused the potential confrontation and ended the discussion.

[presidio9]

They should, as they would be first on the religion of peace hit-list, but they don't. Hating Bush and anything associated with him is more important to them.

[ModelBreaker]

The AP is engaged in bigoted reporting. The Boy Scouts are not engaging in "discrimination."

Actually, they are. "1 a : the act of discriminating b : the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently 2 : the quality or power of finely distinguishing."

On the one hand, you have the a hoterosexual scout master. OTOH, a homosexual. Responding to those situations differently is the essence of discrimination.

The left has twisted the language. Intuitively, folks respond to the word discrimination as a bad thing. But the ability to tell the difference between good and evil is precisely what the left seeks by attacking the word "discrimination."

Discrimination exercised wisely is a good thing. Discrimation exercised foolishly . . .