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1 posted on 10/15/2006 1:21:07 PM PDT by US Navy guy
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and the new gov't that get's installed, is it a puppet regime of China?


2 posted on 10/15/2006 1:22:16 PM PDT by oceanview
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China can have it.


3 posted on 10/15/2006 1:23:18 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Wonder if Putin will agree? History and alllll. Most likely the Clintonites will have something respectable to say about this. `sarcasm`
6 posted on 10/15/2006 1:23:37 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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careful waht you wish for.. it might come back to bite us. China wants Taiwan as well.


12 posted on 10/15/2006 1:24:32 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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> some of the North Korean elite are seeking their boltholes in China <

Maybe some Aussie will translate "bolthole" for the benefit of us Americanos?


15 posted on 10/15/2006 1:25:38 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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The Chinese would still be calling shots, so North Korea might just be a "kinder and gentler hell."


17 posted on 10/15/2006 1:26:34 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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Then he would really be ronery...


19 posted on 10/15/2006 1:27:58 PM PDT by RacerX1128
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This is a very interesting article, with information i had not seen anywhere else. some pieces

"The Chinese made an intense political study of the Romanian revolution and even questioned president Ion Iliescu, who took over, about how it was done and what roles were played by the KGB and by Russia."

also the comments detailing at least 3 insurrections/coup attempts inside DPRK are something I had not seen elsewhere.


30 posted on 10/15/2006 1:35:00 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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Works for me too. Better Chineese puppet goverment. Anyway Chineese may give them few tips on economy recovery Anyhow, look just at this army posters of NorthKorea Army. They are from 2003: http://realpolitik.us/archives/dprkposters/nkoreapostersindex.html Communists are gone mad...
32 posted on 10/15/2006 1:37:19 PM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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Useful fools propaganda... since when has a commie state stabbed another in the back?


36 posted on 10/15/2006 2:03:38 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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"some of the North Korean elite are seeking their boltholes in China."


Heh. But can they distinguish them from a hole in the ground?


37 posted on 10/15/2006 2:09:32 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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All just window dressing for our consumption. Chi-coms have a long plan that includes Lil Kim.
39 posted on 10/15/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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Bush probably told China if you'll get rid of Kim, we'll send the food to keep the NK people at home in NK.


41 posted on 10/15/2006 2:26:29 PM PDT by blam
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Git going, China. You have our imprimatur of approval.


42 posted on 10/15/2006 2:27:40 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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While I can't blame China for at least entertaining the possibility, it would be a tragedy for the people of North Korea to go from the iron fist of Kim Jong-Il to the iron fist of China, even if China is a bit more monied.


44 posted on 10/15/2006 2:29:55 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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Even Putin has warned Kim, saying that his KGB may pull a Ceaucescu and assassinate him, if he doesn't play by the rules.


45 posted on 10/15/2006 2:29:58 PM PDT by Thunder90
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This could prove to be a major win-win for both China, the region, and the US. Not Kim, however.

First of all, China could invade and conquer Nork quickly and secure any and all nuclear products and weapons. This would avoid the destruction of Seoul from the Norks massed artillery. Hopefully, China would have convinced several Nork generals to surrender quickly.

Now, if China gave some guarantees to the US ahead of time, and everybody soothed the Skors, some very good things could come out of this for everybody concerned.

First, China could set up a puppet government in Nork, then quickly pull back its armed forces. This would defuse the situation, both for the Skors and the US.

Then, this puppet government would begin immediate reunification talks with Skor. From this point on, China wins big.

By helping them to reunify, Korea becomes China's best friend in the whole world. Not only that, but they no longer have to fret about Nkor illegals entering China--in fact most Koreans living in China would be thrilled to go home.

Next, China gets a major trading partner worth billions to them every year. And there would actually be little reason for contention, from the Chinese point of view, because Korea already does things "the Chinese way"; so it is tolerable to have them on the border.

In other words, Korea would be much like Hong Kong and Macau in relation to China.

Being peacefully in the sphere of China, the US could gladly leave Korea, *saving* us billions of dollars every year, and still probably get an agreement that would allow us to park our ships in Pusan when they were passing by.

I'm sure that lots and lots of side deals would be part of the big package, such as Taiwan and Japan losing all interest in nuclear weapons again. But just about everywhere would be sweetness and light.

The universe would again be in balance.


46 posted on 10/15/2006 2:30:49 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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Kim works for China. I'm sure everything he has done has Chinese approval. This is posturing.


51 posted on 10/15/2006 2:33:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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The most interesting part of the article is the allegation that three coup attempts have taken place against Kim, all but unknown in the West.


60 posted on 10/15/2006 3:00:57 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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Bump...


67 posted on 10/15/2006 3:25:16 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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