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China may back coup against Kim
The Sunday Times ^ | October 16, 2006 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 10/15/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by US Navy guy

THE Chinese are openly debating "regime change" in Pyongyang after last week's nuclear test by their confrontational neighbour.

Diplomats in Beijing said at the weekend that China and all the major US allies believed North Korea's claim that it had detonated a nuclear device. US director of national intelligence John Negroponte circulated a report that radiation had been detected at a site not far from the Chinese border.

(Excerpt) Read more at theaustralian.news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: badhair; bolthole; china; northkorea
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To: JadeEmperor

Is China running low on slave labor?


81 posted on 10/15/2006 10:30:12 PM PDT by Nachoman (There is nothing so good in this world that it can't become an unhealthy obsession.)
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To: John Williams

Point noted.

Though China and Russia were not comrades united against the evils of capitalism. Instead, they were bitter enemies... and the US was, as in the old saying, an enemy of my enemy.

And maybe the Communist brotherhood between North Korea and China will end up the same way, as bitter enemies.


82 posted on 10/15/2006 10:36:36 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breathe some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: JadeEmperor

Kazakhstan, Belarus, and a bunch of the other Stans could fall back. Also, if Putin plays his cards right, he could get Ukraine back. Ukraine is pretty much split 50-50 on joining NATO and the EU, or going back to Russia and the CIS.


83 posted on 10/15/2006 10:49:00 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: JadeEmperor

"Or the border clashes between USSR and China."

I have read comments on FR that there are seismograph readings indicating that there were apparently small nuclear exchanges during part of this series of clashes.


84 posted on 10/15/2006 11:03:34 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Thunder90

Not to mention that Korea is land God given for partisan warfare. Usa would need some 300,000 troops just to control N Korea, and that is without troops that would be used for combating guerillas...


85 posted on 10/16/2006 1:15:50 AM PDT by kronos77 (www.savekosovo.org and www.kosovo.net Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: WoofDog123
"I have read comments on FR that there are seismograph readings indicating that there were apparently small nuclear exchanges during part of this series of clashes."
Even a "small" nuclear exchange is a pretty big deal. I would not go that far, because they would leave a fallout residue (not to mention blast damage) of which we would definitely know by now. Pretty much all Soviet nuclear test and disasters were unveiled at the end of the cold war (beside Chernobyl there was also Kyshtym and the botched "Globus-1" civilian nuclear test in 1971 (similar to U.S. "Plowshare" series of tests, which contaminated a populated area.)) There were, however, nuclear land mines on the Sino-Soviet border.
86 posted on 10/16/2006 4:32:37 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Thunder90

Even worst-case imperialist Russia does not necessarily mean a return to a totalitarian Marxist state. An ultranationalist-fascist Russia is a far greater possibility


87 posted on 10/16/2006 4:40:13 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor

It will be a hybrid of the two systems.(See National Boshlevism), where there is capitalism but the state uses Marxist style propaganda. I expect China to do the same thing, have a fascist state while relying on the past Marxist experince for propaganda purposes


88 posted on 10/16/2006 10:09:58 AM PDT by Thunder90
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