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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 15 October 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 15 October 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 10/15/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Arizona Carolyn
NOthing would surprise me about those two, they are capable of anything for powers sake.
521 posted on 10/15/2006 2:58:48 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

I only once watched Wolfie during the week, and it so unsettled me that I don't want to go back. He was showing President Bush at the Cabinet Room table and using 4 screens of his panel of TV screens. This put the "+"of the vertical and horizontal lines dividing the 4 screens exactly on Bush's head. It made the image look like Bush was in someone's crosshairs.

I do not believe that producers in a visual medium do that sort of thing randomly. They must have been having chuckles or more in their control room.

Did you ever notice anything like that during your cruise-enforced viewing?


522 posted on 10/15/2006 3:00:42 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Knowing she is as much to be feared (maybe more so) as her husband, I've wondered if there is more to Ed Cox dropping out than Pataki.

All I know is that he seemed to be very sincere and was very energetic in setting up a campaign - but then Pataki called him in and told him that he (Pataki) was going to support Jeannine Pirro. And right after that meeting, Ed Cox put out a press release saying that he wasn't going to go against Pataki's wishes. Before he withdrew, he seemed all primed up and was really going on the attack against Hillary - it would have been a dirty campaign but Ed Cox seemed up to it. So it's very disappointing that he had to withdraw.

523 posted on 10/15/2006 3:02:17 PM PDT by BusterBear
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To: OldFriend

Bolton is Jewish?


524 posted on 10/15/2006 3:23:30 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: OldFriend
I'll tell y'all something about the way the rest of the world thinks about the United States: Many of them hate us because of our success and our good-natured attitude and friendliness.

I served overseas in the early '80s, under Reagan, and again in the '90s under Bush the Elder and Clinton. The overseas Leftists really hated Reagan, but their venom was muted to a degree due to the Cold War. The Soviets, still being dictatorial bastards, gave peace-loving people plenty of ammunition to use against them. Even still, the huge marches against Reagan in Europe, especially over the deployment of Pershing II IRBM, in response to the Soviets FIRST deploying SS-20s at all their capitals and peoples, were some of the biggest gatherings of anti-Americans ever assembled. The DBM ignores this or is too stupid or too stuck on their times only to even acknowldege it.

During the 1990s, the protesters were once again out in force over Desert Shield. I was at the Pentagon then (soon to go overseas), and had a part time job working for the Veterans Administration next to the White House. Next door, in Lafeyette park, the aging, smelly, greasy-haired hippies had this enormous tom-tom drum, which they beat every five seconds. I could hear it in the VA's computer room, even with the air handlers going full blast and a 6 node VAX cluster running. I have yet to encounter a more disturbing noise since. The Worldwide Left threw similar hissy fits all over, especially in Europe.

During the Clinton years, the world began to REALLY, REALLY hate us, and, believe it or not, it wasn't just about Clinton.

You see, after the Soviet Union broke up in late 1991, we, meanning the United States of America, was the only super power left standing. Without the various nations taking sides either with us or the Soviets, they could all hate us together. Everyone loves to hate the richest, biggest, strongest person--it's simple human nature. The USA is simply a national personification of this.

Our culture is world wide. I have seen Japanese kids, German kids, Italian Kids, Greek kids, wearing their pants halfway off their butts and various NBA and Raiders jackets, half-cocked ball caps, etc, all over the world. Rap music in Berlin at 2:00 AM on a Tuesday. McDonalds in Paris, serving Le Royale (Big Mac)... Chrysler minvans on the Autobahn to Basel, Switzerland.

I have been stared at in disgust by older Germans just for being "too friendly". These people won't even talk to each other, so it annoyed them when a strange American treated them nicely. I just laughed at them, knowing how we kicked their asses! Der Fuerer's tot, dumkopf!

Under Clinton, the USA was percieved as a joke politically. It was like Peyton Place moves to the White House. So many European people told me what a bumpkin they thought he was.

Now Bush is a MAN, and an American man at that. Nice guy! Friendly. But means what he says and says what he means. No nuance in him. They hate that!

Since then we have been using just SOME of our power and might to take out Islamic fascists. The already-hating-us world Left is still, well, hating us. Nothing is new.

The self loathers we have in this country (Kerry, et al), simply are jointed at the cerebellum with the world Leftists.

525 posted on 10/15/2006 3:30:56 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Juan and Condi dated for a while.

My respect for Juan just spiked.

526 posted on 10/15/2006 3:47:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: Phsstpok
while we knew they probably were cheating, we were on a road where we had them in the non-proliferation treaty.... And if we had stayed on that road, then we could have perhaps had a better opportunity to be able to curb this.

What logic...what brilliance. Who could argue with this.

527 posted on 10/15/2006 3:47:49 PM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Yup. The Dems are trying to change their image.


528 posted on 10/15/2006 3:51:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thank you for posting this weekly thread on the Sunday talk shows. I have not watched last week's offerings, including Beltway Boys on Sat, nor this week's either. I doubt that I will tune in again until after the election. All I was hearing were poll results from whatever source could be dredged up and they all spelled doom for the GOP. I am grateful for all who have taken the trouble to keep us informed of the latest wisdom of the media experts. My son called and told me that Juan Williams was the most positive about the election, or maybe the least pessimistic, for the GOP. He also asked what was up with the radio talking heads, not RUSH, and some on FOX, and I told him that apparently their futures in the media business were linked to a Republican defeat. We expect the Republicans to win and the media and RATS to lose. We prayed George Bush in both times and that kind of prayer is what will win this election as well.


529 posted on 10/15/2006 4:08:54 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless President George Bush)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Clear back to Carter they hated us. My husband and I traveled to Tahiti in 1980 and heard nothing from the French there by derision for the USA and our idiot president.


530 posted on 10/15/2006 4:20:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Bahbah
What logic...what brilliance. Who could argue with this.

A shrubbery?  And it wouldn't take a well educated one, either... 

531 posted on 10/15/2006 4:20:27 PM PDT by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: johnny7

What happened during the Kerry segement? Im at work with my laptop, and our wireless was down most of the day.


532 posted on 10/15/2006 4:25:09 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi..)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks for the historical percpective. For sure, most people under 40 or who have never lived abroad have little idea that today's "hate America" is not a new phenomenon.

It never ceases to amaze me how our major media can ignore the facts of history.


533 posted on 10/15/2006 4:32:25 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: maica
Didn't notice that but after the Cheney "X" incident nothing surprises me about CNN,they are far left all the time.
534 posted on 10/15/2006 4:36:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I grew up reading LIFE and other weekly magazines. Photographs of demonstrators in front of graffitied walls saying "Yanqui go home" were a regular feature of most issues - long before Carter.


535 posted on 10/15/2006 4:40:14 PM PDT by maica (9/11 was not “the day everything changed”, but the day that revealed how much had already changed.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
You have critiqued the situation perfectly. The media would like us to believe that all this USA hatred began the day President Bush took office.

During X42, we were mocked and ridiculed the world over. The media would pretend that wasn't so, but it is so!

Given a chance there's not a soul in any other country who wouldn't give just about anything to come to America.

536 posted on 10/15/2006 4:49:57 PM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: maica

Yes, Bolton is jewish.


537 posted on 10/15/2006 4:51:00 PM PDT by OldFriend (ANNOY THE MEDIA ~ VOTE REPUBLICAN)
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To: maica
Right. I don't know what to call it, but there is a form of prejudice associated with thinking everything that recently happened is new, different, and exciting. Call it "Contemporyrism" or "Nowadayism".

I read recently that a poll was taken asking people to name and rank the top ten female actors (we'd say actresses, at one time). At the top of the list?

Julia Roberts, Glenith Paltrow, and Meryl Streep! The list did NOT have Bette Davis, Mary Pickford, Donna Reed, etc, etc. Mostly actresses from the past 10-20 years. Stupid people or doesn't anyone teach people things today? Do they know their cultural origins?

One thing about America hatred. While its always been present, it really has burgeoned due to the US being the sole remaining superpower. So it is worse than ever. But, it's not Bush's fault, like too many keep saying. Of course, it's politically convenient to say so, so the DBM and Dems really harp on it. Call it projection.
538 posted on 10/15/2006 4:57:36 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: OldFriend
Chaffee is against Bolton because he's against the President's favoring of Israel. Those are Chaffee's words. So I guess he's against Bolton because he's jewish.

Sheesh. Chaffee is even a bigger turkey than I thought,

539 posted on 10/15/2006 5:32:45 PM PDT by CDB ("They shall fall by the sword: they shall be a portion for foxes." from Psalm 63)
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To: Alas Babylon!

If Kerry runs again he will end up in court for Treason.:::::::::Thanks for the thread today.


540 posted on 10/15/2006 5:45:19 PM PDT by GitmoSailor
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