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To: SunkenCiv; Fred Nerks

Something that I think is related to this is all the recent research that links self-esteem to violence. These studies are finding that one of the strongest triggers of violent behaviour is when one's self-image is threatened--so by artificially boosting self-esteem, we are increasing the chances that its level is unsustainable, and therefore increase violence.

The idea of "honor" being based on prestige, "respect," "props," etc. is a similarly "weak self-esteem" setup, IMHO--where undeserved "honor" can be sustained only through violence.


16 posted on 10/15/2006 12:24:09 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
The idea of "honor" being based on prestige, "respect," "props," etc. is a similarly "weak self-esteem" setup, IMHO--where undeserved "honor" can be sustained only through violence.

God forbid that someone is dissed.

17 posted on 10/15/2006 12:34:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Gondring

"The idea of "honor" being based on prestige, "respect," "props," etc. is a similarly "weak self-esteem" setup, IMHO--where undeserved "honor" can be sustained only through violence."

I'm of the opinion you've made a very vaild point with that observation. Come to think of it, there's nothing in the 'religion' of islam that would increase the self-esteem of its followers, is there?


18 posted on 10/15/2006 3:56:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks ("Illegitimi non carborundum",)
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