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Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 10/14/06

Posted on 10/14/2006 3:41:13 PM PDT by Pokey78

The 2012 London Olympics have been plunged into controversy by the discovery that the Games will clash with Ramadan, the most holy month in the Islamic calendar.

The clash will put Muslim athletes at a disadvantage as they will be expected to fast from sunrise to sunset for the entire duration of the Games.

In 2012, Ramadan will take place from July 21 to August 20, while the Olympics run from July 27 to August 12.

An anticipated 3,000 Muslim competitors are expected to be affected.

About a quarter of the 11,099 athletes who took part in the 2004 Athens Olympics came from countries with predominantly Muslim populations.

Because the Muslim calendar is based on a lunar cycle, the ninth month of Ramadan - which runs from the appearance of one new crescent moon to the next - gets earlier by around 11 days each year.

The clash will be a huge embarrassment for Lord Coe, Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell, and London Mayor Ken Livingstone, who have been keen to ensure the Games involve all Britain's ethnic communities.

Massoud Shadjareh, chairman of the London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission, said: "They would not have organised this at Christmas. It is equally stupid to organise it at Ramadan.

"It shows a complete lack of awareness and sensitivity.

"This is going to disadvantage the athletes and alienate the Asian communities by saying they don't matter.

"It's not only going to affect the participants it's going to affect all the people who want to watch the Games.

"They won't want to travel during Ramadan and they won't want to watch sport. It's a spiritual time."

Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam on the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: "I'm sure the athletes will seek advice from their scholars.

"They are obviously going to be at a disadvantage because other competitors will be drinking and keeping up their energy levels.

"But they are athletes and I am sure they will train their bodies to cope with this.

"A Muslim might feel it would have been nice to avoid this month but life doesn't stop for Muslims during Ramadan even though they are fasting.

"The best thing for a Muslim is to continue his or her life as normal. This is the real test."

The British Olympic Association is now planning a meeting with the organisers of London 2012 to discuss how the timing will affect UK Muslim athletes.

And Muslim countries such as Turkey are calling for the date to be changed.

Togay Bayalti, president of the National Olympic Committee of Turkey, said: "This will be difficult for Muslim athletes.

"They don't have to observe Ramadan if they are doing sport and travelling but they will have to decide whether it is important to them.

"It would be nice for the friendship of the Games if they had chosen a different date."

The International Olympics Committee insisted the Games take place some time between July 15 to August 31, giving more than a week either side of Ramadan.

IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We give a window to the five bid cities. The host city selects the dates within that window.

"The Games bring together virtually every religion and creed. How to deal with religious clashes is up to the athletes."

Joanna Manning Cooper, spokeswoman for London 2012, said: "We did know about it when we submitted our bid and we have always believed we could find ways to accommodate it.

"We had lots of things to consider when we submitted our dates, including the fact that transport will be less crowded in the summer holiday.

"We also need 70,000 volunteers and this is the best time to find them.

"We are working with the Muslim Council of Great Britain to find ways to accommodate Ramadan during the London Games."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: angrymuslims; criminalpunks; crybabymuslims; globalwhining; islam; muslims; olympics; ramalamadingdong; riotingmuslims; trop
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To: Pokey78

Is there ANYTHING that does NOT anger these fools?

Never forget the brave Scottish athlete Eric Liddell. In 1924, during the Paris Olympics, he refused to compete in the 100 meter dash preliminaries because it was on a Sunday. He strictly adhered to his religion, and the 100 meters was his best event. Eric did know months beforehand that this would happen, but he did not moan or complain about it. He did win the 400 meter dash later in the week, which was not his best event.


141 posted on 10/14/2006 10:30:20 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: Former Dodger

LOL!


142 posted on 10/14/2006 10:32:10 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Cobra64

OMG, taht is the funniest thing I have seen in years!


143 posted on 10/14/2006 10:35:09 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Darkwolf377

I agree.


144 posted on 10/14/2006 10:35:28 PM PDT by EBH (All great truths begin as blasphemies. GB Shaw)
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To: Cobra64

ROTFLOL!
Consider it lifted.
LOL-LOL-LOL


145 posted on 10/14/2006 10:37:44 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Pokey78

Screw the people who "Discovered ramadan"


146 posted on 10/14/2006 10:42:12 PM PDT by shadowcat
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To: Howlin; onyx; All
OMG, taht is the funniest thing I have seen in years!

Thank you Howlin and onyx.

I'll share it with the others on this thread who may have not seen it.


147 posted on 10/14/2006 11:03:58 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64

I will TRY to remember to ping you the very next time I think it's needed on a thread. It's hilarious!


148 posted on 10/14/2006 11:06:05 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: onyx
I will TRY to remember to ping you the very next time I think it's needed on a thread. It's hilarious!

Thanks onyx.

I have a question. I rarely use the bradcast tag, "All" because I don't want to annoy anyone. You've been around here a lot longer than I have; what's the protocol?

When I first got this image (below), I wanted to create my own thread (I've only created a couple in 5 years) because I think it's outstanding. But I figured It'd get pulled due to lack of interest.

What do you think?

Cobra


149 posted on 10/14/2006 11:23:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64

I love it! I suggest you do it next year, long about the first of September. Right now, the election threads are hot.


150 posted on 10/14/2006 11:28:48 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Cobra64; Howlin

Ask Howlin too.


151 posted on 10/14/2006 11:30:07 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Cobra64

Lack of interest in what?


152 posted on 10/14/2006 11:35:01 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Howlin; onyx
Howlin, what do you think of this image being posted in a vanity. I really love the patriotism it embues.

Onyx makes a good point about saving it for next September due to the mid-terms coming up in a few weeks, and it might be distracting. It is on my homepage though.

Your thoughts?

Cobra


153 posted on 10/14/2006 11:36:38 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64

I love it and I think there are many others here that would love it.

And, in fact, I think it might do to remind people right now what we're fighting for.


154 posted on 10/14/2006 11:39:37 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Cobra64; Howlin

We would definitely BUMP your thread.


155 posted on 10/14/2006 11:41:59 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Howlin; onyx
And, in fact, I think it might do to remind people right now what we're fighting for.

Excellent point. I'll post it next Monday right after Rush (I think that's about when most FReepers are signed on).

Thanks guys, Cobra

156 posted on 10/14/2006 11:48:15 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: Cobra64; Howlin


Please ping us!


157 posted on 10/14/2006 11:52:48 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Thank you for that post. I will go to bed with a smile on my face, if I can sleep at all because I'm laughing. Good one!


158 posted on 10/15/2006 12:29:22 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: prairiebreeze

They don't even TRY to integrate with society, do they?


159 posted on 10/15/2006 4:01:36 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

My first thought when I read the title of this article

Muslims' anger as London Olympics clash with Ramadan

was "Muslims angry about _________________________ " (insert anything here)

I am so sick and tired of the non-ROP.


160 posted on 10/15/2006 7:03:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (DBM - still trying to create a nonexistent legacy for BJ Clinton.)
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