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Campaign 2006: Clinton blasts Prop. 87 foes
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/14/6 | Laura Mecoy

Posted on 10/14/2006 10:49:01 AM PDT by SmithL

Former President Clinton on Friday called the campaign against Proposition 87 a "ruse" and charged the oil companies with making "bogus" claims that the initiative would drive up gas prices.

In a rare endorsement of a state ballot measure, the nation's former chief executive chided the oil companies that have pumped $64 million into the "No on 87" campaign.

"If they really thought you were going to pay for this, would they have spent all that money trying to convince you to vote against it?" he asked students at a "Yes on 87" rally Friday.

Introduced by Academy Award-winning actress Geena Davis, who played the president on the television show "Commander in Chief," Clinton addressed an enthusiastic crowd of more than 3,000 at the University of California, Los Angeles.

The "No on 87" campaign said that the initiative's supporters were bringing in "big names from around the country" to support a measure that would ultimately cause gas prices to rise in the state.

Al Lundeen, opposition spokesman, said the tax Proposition 87 would impose on California oil production would cause further declines in the state's oil production. He said that would force refiners to import more costly foreign oil, causing gasoline prices to rise.

"It's easy to pick on oil companies," he said.

Clinton pointed out that all the other major oil-producing states impose an oil extraction, or severance, tax, like the one proposed in Proposition 87.

He said even his home state of Arkansas has one, and its gasoline doesn't cost more than California's gasoline.

"The argument that this is going to raise gas prices is just bogus," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anticapitalism; calinitiatives; clinton; prop87; taxandspend

1 posted on 10/14/2006 10:49:02 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I was telling my teenaged son the other night that simply because Al Gore can be seen on the TV ad for prop 87 is all you need to know to vote against it. Same with Bubba. The sound could be completely off, and you'd know it was a bad proposition.


2 posted on 10/14/2006 10:50:44 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
Mrs. steveo and I were watching Algore's prop 87 ad when it struck us. He was using a voice that could have been in one of those Disney animal story narrations. "Old Sparky didn't know it at the time, but messing with Mr. Skunk was about to land him in a passel of trouble."
3 posted on 10/14/2006 10:58:26 AM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: SmithL

Probably Arkansas doesnt pay more than California now is because they dont have Californias' laws demanding special gas formula's. However anyone, Ex-President or not, who thinks that the oil companies will simply absorb the extra tax increase and not pass it on to Consumers is a friggin idiot.

What does Bubba care? He rides around in a secret service SUV and he doesnt buy any. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can fool liberals just about every time if your name is Billy Jeff pervert Clinton.


4 posted on 10/14/2006 10:58:38 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: SmithL
Wow...gas is gonna be VERY expensive in California. Very. (No matter what the legislation says about not passing the tax on the consumer)
5 posted on 10/14/2006 11:01:36 AM PDT by Drango (Born free, now expensive.)
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To: SmithL
"The argument that this is going to raise gas prices is just bogus," he said.

Right, and we can believe him, can't we? /sarc!

6 posted on 10/14/2006 11:02:55 AM PDT by Sister_T (The Foley scandal will NEVER get me to vote for "cut-and-run", hypocritical DemocRATs!)
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To: sgtbono2002

Why do liberals raise taxes? To provide more money. What do they do with the money? Hire more (liberal) bureaucrats whose job it is to tell the rest of us how to live our lives. Regardless of whether I pay or the oil companies pay (ha!), I don't want the government to have any more money.


7 posted on 10/14/2006 11:06:54 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: SmithL

Here goes the blowhard again....forever opening his mouth...guess he got so used to it being open for Monica, he forgot it shuts to.....


8 posted on 10/14/2006 11:12:27 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: SmithL

I simply can't believe they are putting their credibility on the line for this. Not that they had any with me beforehand, but they have to be putting off a lot more then just conservatives.

You don't have to do much then take Econ 101 to know that at least part of every tax laid on a business will get passed on to the consumer, usually a large part of it, if not all.


9 posted on 10/14/2006 11:16:39 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: AndyJackson

According to this they want to use it to raise 4 Billion dollars. then they will give this money to anyone who has any hairbrained scheme for energy sources other than petroleum. I would imagine a lot of liberal colleges and dork professors would get a big piece of it.

fact is if anyone could come up with a workable alternative to Petroleum they wouldnt need money. people would beat their doors down to get at it..

Yes: I am sure some Clinton cronies would get a major portion of the bundle.


10 posted on 10/14/2006 11:36:23 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: SmithL
Clinton pointed out that all the other major oil-producing states impose an oil extraction, or severance, tax, like the one proposed in Proposition 87. He said even his home state of Arkansas has one, and its gasoline doesn't cost more than California's gasoline.

Well, lets see why that is:

http://www.arkansasgasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

After crude oil costs, taxes are the second largest contributor to the price paid at the pump. Together Federal and State excise taxes on fuel account for an average cost of approximately 62 cents per gallon. Note: Federal tax of 18.4 cents/gallon is not included in the rates listed below.

Arkansas
Gas: 21.8
Diesel: 22.8
Plus .3cpg environmental assurance fee assessed at the wholesale level for underground storage tank fund.

California
Gas:44.7
Diesel: 45
Other taxes include a 6% state sales tax and 1.25% county, plus additional local sales taxes and 1.2 cpg state UST fee.

11 posted on 10/14/2006 11:37:21 AM PDT by lowbridge (DNC - "We support our troops! Ummm.....what do they look like again?")
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To: AndyJackson

This is nothing more than an attempt to have a "liberal" piggy bank like meathead had access to. I wish that liberal hbeen prosecuted for "looting his piggy bank" to take care of his liberal advertising friends to push more liberal agendas.


12 posted on 10/14/2006 11:40:27 AM PDT by stumpy
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To: Yaelle

Boy Clinton, economic illiterate.


13 posted on 10/14/2006 2:11:05 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: SmithL
Any time Bill Clinton endorses something it dies. So he's for higher taxes? Yeah but he doesn't have to ever drive a car and more importantly, he doesn't live in car-dependent California. 42nd can go out of our state and let the door hit him in his ugly butt as he departs from here!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

14 posted on 10/14/2006 3:32:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Yaelle
I loved that one. Those two are a real class act. Why, with higher gas prices, Happy Days Are Here Again!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

15 posted on 10/14/2006 3:33:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL
The goal of developing viable alternative fuels is laudable but this is *NOT* the way to go about it.

With Clinton and Gore pushing it, it really can't be a good idea.

16 posted on 10/14/2006 8:41:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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