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Republicans - The Party Of Appeasement
10/14/2006 | Technomage

Posted on 10/14/2006 9:32:42 AM PDT by technomage

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To: ImpBill
Grab hold of something steady and don your flame retardant clothing, however

Suit on, ready for combat!!

21 posted on 10/14/2006 10:08:42 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: WashingtonSource

I agree...they need to fight the dirty fight like the leftists do but fight against the leftists....I am so sick and tired of watching them cave in...


22 posted on 10/14/2006 10:16:48 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Mo1

Freepers must remember, the GOP and Dems do not have a majority amongst the voters. 15 to 20 percent are independents and they hold the balance of power. If the GOP loses, it is because the independents swung heavilly towards the Dems. For the independents, they do not see much of a difference between GOP and Dems. If they sense there is a need for change they will vote the incumbents out of office and replace it with the opposition. If the GOP loses they lost because they could not convince the independents to vote for them.


23 posted on 10/14/2006 10:16:50 AM PDT by Fee
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To: Joann37

Sheep in sheeps clothing is a very good description of the GOP these days. Nevertheless, I will be voting straight GOP ticket this year because the alternative is socialism and perversion.


24 posted on 10/14/2006 10:19:17 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: slowhand520; technomage
Well I am a "boomer" and I don't take personal offense.

However it seems shallow, at best, to lump us all into a "blame them group".

Those who lead have been dividing us into smaller and smaller groups, all at each others throats for a piece of the pie, for so long now. And we follow, blindly. To the extent, that we have almost all, willingly, become some type of "hypenated-American" with the "me, me, me" mentality.

Please, in your endeavor to fix "blame" elsewhere, don't forget the multiple hundreds of thousands of "Boomers" who served this nation in honor and selflessness, leaving 55,000 of our brothers and sisters lying dead on the field of battle for the Ideal of America, when most of the American "parent" generation sat on the sidelines in quiet dumbness and then watched as we came home to be spit upon and reviled in many unthinkable ways.

We must all shoulder a portion of the responsibility for where we are today. Until we do, we are doomed as a culture and the "Republic" along with us.

25 posted on 10/14/2006 10:20:46 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: technomage

Go back to DU troll! < /GOP bootlicker >


26 posted on 10/14/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: technomage

Great post BTW. Remember Trent Lott's ridiculous "power-sharing" agreement with then-Senate minority leader Daschle?


27 posted on 10/14/2006 10:23:51 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: msnimje
"How is Republican appeasement working for the Taleban, Saddam Hussein, Assad the lesser, Kim Jong Il, Islamic Fundamentalist, etc?"

Well, let's see here.

Taliban: Bush has them on the run, has killed thousands of them. But they won't go away, and he hasn't been able to crush them. This isn't his fault though, and it certainly doesn't amount to appeasement. Although I was appalled recently to learn that we had two hundred Taliban leaders all standing in a small formation and we had the armed drone at the ready to kill them, but we let them live because they were standing on "sacred ground". This disgusting incident was, in fact, an nausiating act of appeasement.

Saddam Hussein: Overthrown by Bush, but Bush is appeasing the new Iraqi "government" and the Iraqi people like a true politically correct moderate with liberal leanings. People like the militant mullah Sadre are allowed to live and prosper, even though he has the most potent militia in Iraq and has engaged U.S. and Iraqi troops in combat many times, and even though he controls a multitutde of stooges in the Iraqi government. This is pure appeasement.

Kim jon Il = Appeasement, and nothing but appeasement. President Bush has labeled this man "evil" and dangerous to world peace, but when little midget tyrant fired seven missiles over the sea of Japan recently, Bush did nothing. Now the little fat dictator has tested a nuke, against the will of the entire world, and Bush does...... nothing. "We will not attack or invade North Korea", he stated.

Islamic fundamentalists: = Window dressing, appeasement at its best. We have spent a massive amount of money, (1/2 trillion dollars), and time, (three years), on killing only a few thousand of them. Even if we have killed, say, 10,000 "radical" muslims, the cost has been prohibitively high due to the way Bush has defined our enemy, (way too narrowly), and also due to his appeasing, PC "rules of engagement".

We fight in Iraq with the tightest of any restraints ever placed on an invading army, and we pay a heavy prive for it. I don't need to get into details about how many of our warriors are rotting in prisons, charged with 'war crimes'; and how many others have been charged with 'war crimes' and had to fight for their lives to get acquitted from these bogus charges. Bush's appeasing response? Order the U.S. Marines to undergo "sensitivity training".

Club Gitmo: More appeasement. These murderers and war criminals are being treated like royalty. Air conditioning, prayer mats, three square meals, korans that are placed in sanitary containers in their cells so they'll know that no filthy 'infidel' has touched it and 'defiled' it. Top quality food and medical attention.............. these animals are absolutey living life far more comfortably than our own troops are, and far more comfortable than most civilian prisoners in the U.S. APPEASEMENT, with a capital "A".

Defining our enemy: President Bush narrowly defines our enemy as "radical islamists who have 'hijacked' a, ahem, 'great religion'. The rest of islam are a "peaceful religion". blech.

Every terror expert in the world agrees that terror is growing in leaps and bounds, worldwide, which point to the obvious conclusion that "terrorsts" are just typical muslims who are following the tenets of their demonic book, the koran. We kill ten, twenty take their place. Kill 1,000, 5,000 take their place. This is of course because islam is NOT a 'religion of peace', but a religion of blood-letting barbarians who seek to conquer the world through any means possible, with terrorism being their most modern tool.

Illegal immigration: Bush is a liberal do-nothing President when it comes to our borders. He desires amnesty for up to 20,000,000 illegal aliens, and his new 'border control' measures are window dressing. President Horge Bush is the grande appeaser of the illegal invaders.

Though Bush is surely better than any and every liberal democrat, he is none-the-less a politically correct, moderate appeaser himself. Bush is a step-up from the Democrats, but at a time in history when we need a President who is the entire stairway up from the liberals.

28 posted on 10/14/2006 10:24:59 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: ImpBill
Please, in your endeavor to fix "blame" elsewhere,

With all due respect, I believe it is the Congressional Republicans themselves, along with the leadership, that bare a great deal of blame for the position they now find themselves. True, voters bare some responsibility, the media bares some responsibility, the liberals, but it is the Republicans themselves that, I believe, bare the brunt of blame.

How many hundreds of posts here on FR have we seen over the past 2, 3, 4 years complaining about Republican lack of spine, of Republican capitulation on numerous subjects, of Republican lack of action on borders, etc.

They still have a small window of opportunity to turn this around, but that window is closing fast. I will be voting Republican, but I am not sure how the majority of the peeples will vote.

don't forget the multiple hundreds of thousands of "Boomers" who served this nation in honor and selflessness, leaving 55,000 of our brothers and sisters lying dead on the field of battle for the Ideal of America, when most of the American "parent" generation sat on the sidelines in quiet dumbness and then watched as we came home to be spit upon and reviled in many unthinkable ways.

For God's sake ImpBill, how did my post give you the impression that I have forgotten those sacrifices? I actually do take offense at that. I cannot understand how you came to that conclusion.

29 posted on 10/14/2006 10:29:44 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: Fee
15 to 20 percent are independents and they hold the balance of power.

I really don't buy this argument and even the Great Limbaugh has debunked it time and time again.

That there is a huge swath of "independent" voters "frustrated" with the political process is ludicrous. If the GOP sticks to a strong conservative message, these people will be won over easily. See Reagan's landslides and the 1994 Republican Congressional takeover for examples.

All this talk about "middle of the road," "centrist," and "moderate" is nothing more than DNC/media ruses to move the ideological hash marks further and further to the left.

30 posted on 10/14/2006 10:32:17 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Mo1
I will blame the voters if they allow the Dems back in power



"Blame the voters" is the approach that the left uses when they lose elections. Are we incapable of critical self appraisal in the face of electoral setbacks as well? I agree with the author of this article, the GOP deserves a large share of the blame. Instead of facing possible defeat in November, the GOP should be on the verge of finishing off the Dems as a national party. There is ABSOLUTELY NO excuse for losing to the current Democratic Party.
31 posted on 10/14/2006 10:57:34 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: rob777
I admit the republican party needs work

But there is not a chance in hell I would ever vote for and hand control back over to the Dems so they can basically give our country to the UN
32 posted on 10/14/2006 11:07:51 AM PDT by Mo1 (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC - BECOME A MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Mo1
But there is not a chance in hell I would ever vote for and hand control back over to the Dems so they can basically give our country to the





I cringe at the prospect of the Dems regaining political control, but if it happens, there is NO WAY that I will ignore the fact that a great deal of the blame will rest with the GOP leadership. I am not convinced yet that the Dems will regain control. Either way, the GOP needs to clean out its current leadership.
33 posted on 10/14/2006 11:18:15 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: ImpBill
Points well taken. I did say in most instances. And there are exceptions to the rule. Obviously the ones who have given the ultimate sacrifice cannot be lumped into the category. Yet you cannot deny the "tsunami" of the baby boom generation. My point is that our leaders today who fall in the Boomer generation are a victim of sociology rather than ideology.

Watch every retirement commercial and tell me that the baby Boomers aren't self absorbed. We have to be reminded constantly that they were the generation that made a difference. That they were the generation of revolution. And what are the images that Fidelity, Met Life and other insurance companies force down out throat? The 60's, protest, Vietnam and every other baby boomer synonyms. When the WWII generation they did so quietly. Not needing advertising to tell us how special they are. Again there are exceptions and they are the ones who gave the ultimate sacrifice but for the most part the Baby Boom generation has bought us promiscuous sex, a drug culture, entitlement mentality, warm fuzziness and pseudo ailments.
34 posted on 10/14/2006 12:39:19 PM PDT by slowhand520
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You misinterpret my posting. Independents do exist, and they want distinct comparisons between GOP and Dems. Most independents vary on social issues, but they want problems solved, low taxes, ethical government, fiancially responsible government, against open borders and etc. These are their common ground with conservatives. When the GOP Congress expands government spending, earmarks and etc, GWB keeps talking about amnesty, GOP senators opposing border fence, the distinction is starting to blurr. If the independents see GOP not much different from Dems, then the Dems and their allies in the MSM will create negative impressions to sway the independents that it is a time for change because life under the Dems will be no different than the current GOP and to take a chance with the Dem opposition.


35 posted on 10/14/2006 12:46:56 PM PDT by Fee
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To: technomage
You were just a courtesy copy in that it is your thread and the other gent seemed to want to "blame" the Boomer Generation. Remember, I already agreed with you and what you posted.

I am glad you will be voting and watching. I am not sure if I will even grace the polls with my presence. If I don't it will be the first time since 1967, when I was first able to vote (age 21). But I will more than likely go and do my "duty". Greg Adams
Brownsville, TX (On the other front line)

36 posted on 10/14/2006 4:15:35 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: slowhand520
Ahhhhhhhhhh, you speak of all the "Boomers" that got the MSM attention in the 60's. Same bunch getting the attention today, but a small vocal minority, as far as I was and am now concerned.

Tens of thousands in the streets, while hundreds of thousands of us served an ungrateful nation.

Perhaps the MSM and those who place all their trust in it can really find their place in the "blame game".

Again, my point is that "we" all need to accept responsibility for where we have gotten and "we" all need to make the changes we can to restore Constitutional Republican Democracy to our once great Republic.

Have a great day and God Bless America, again!

Greg Adams
Brownsville, TX (On the other Front Line)

37 posted on 10/14/2006 4:20:35 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: ImpBill
You were just a courtesy copy in that it is your thread and the other gent seemed to want to "blame" the Boomer Generation. Remember, I already agreed with you and what you posted.

I am glad you will be voting and watching. I am not sure if I will even grace the polls with my presence. If I don't it will be the first time since 1967, when I was first able to vote (age 21). But I will more than likely go and do my "duty". Greg Adams Brownsville, TX (On the other front line)

Thank you for the clarification.

Look, as crappy as the Republicans have been on many things over the past few years, the Deathocrats would be a disaster that this country may not be able to handle.

Pinch your nose and vote Republican!

IF, and I know it is a big if, the Republicans do retain power, I believe we have a better chance of getting them to change their ways then we do with slimy liberals.

38 posted on 10/14/2006 4:48:06 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: technomage

BUMP


39 posted on 10/15/2006 3:58:31 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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