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To: Southack
Silicon (Si) and Oxygen (O2), when seen together, are known as Silica (i.e. Silicon dioxide).

What about manufactured glass? What about quartz? How did they know the graph didn't represent traces of manufactured glass absorbed from a Petri dish?

They ASSUMED the silicon and oxygen were in the form of silica because silica is used in "weaponizing" spores. But that was just an ASSUMPTION. They had no reason to think it might have been manufactured glass instead. They were looking for an ADDITIVE and they believed they found an additive. Sometimes people find what they are looking for, even if it isn't really there. Columbus thought he found Asia because that's what he was looking for. He died without ever realizing he'd never seen Asia.

Ed

164 posted on 10/18/2006 2:01:18 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake

How did they know the graph didn't represent traces of manufactured glass absorbed from a Petri dish?


Do you actually know the reason glass is used by chemists? It's because it doesn't react with anything (with the exception of hydrofuoric acid) - and doesn't leave traces on samples that it contains.


166 posted on 10/18/2006 2:04:01 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake

"What about quartz? How did they know the graph didn't represent traces of manufactured glass absorbed from a Petri dish?"

 

Well, they were missing just a "few" elements to conclude quartz, not that you'd know any better.

 

CHEMICAL COMPOSITION OF QUARTZ

Type Al As B Ca Cd Cr Cu Fe K Li Mg Mn Na Ni P Sb Ti Zr *OH
214 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.1 0.8 <5
219 14 <0.01 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 100 0.8 <5
254 14 <0.1 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 500 0.8 <5
214A 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.1 0.8 <1
214 Rod, 214 LD 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.1 0.8 10
224/224 Rod 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.03 0.2 <0.2 <0.2 0.1 <0.03 <0.2. <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.4 0.8 10
224 LD 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.01 0.2 <0.2 0.001 0.1 <0.05 <0.1 <0.1 <0.2 0.003 1.1 0.8 10
244/244 Rod 8 <0.002 <0.1 0.6 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 <0.2 <0.2 <0.1 <0.03 <0.2 <0.1 <0.2 0.003 1.4 0.3 10
244 LD 8 <0.002 <0.1 0.6 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 <0.2 0.001 <0.1 <0.03 0.1 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.4 0.3 10
124 14 <0.002 <0.2 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 0.1 <0.05 0.7 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.1 0.8 <5
144 8 <0.002 <0.1 0.6 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 <0.2 <0.2 <0.1 <0.03 <0.2 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.4 0.3 <5
982 WGY 14 ** ** 0.4 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.2 0.6 0.6 <0.1 <0.03 <0.2 <0.1 <0.2 <0.003 1.4 0.3 <5
098 WGY 0.2 ** ** <0.005 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.07 <0.05 <0.05 0.1 <0.05 0.7 ** ** ** 1.1 0.8 3
095 WGY 9 ** ** <0.005 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.07 0.1 <0.05 <0.05 <0.02 <0.05 ** ** ** <0.02 <0.02 10
095 WGY 9 ** ** <0.005 <0.01 <0.05 <0.05 0.07 0.1 <0.05 <0.05 <0.02 0.1 ** ** ** <0.02 <0.02 <10
510, 520, 530, 512, 522, 532 14, 8 <0.01, <0.01 <0.2, <0.1 0.4, 0.6 <0.01, <0.01 <0.05, <0.05 <0.05, <0.05 0.2, 0.2 0.6, 0.5 0.6, 0.5 0.1, <0.1 <0.05, <0.05 0.7, 0.7 <0.1, <0.1 <0.2, <0.2 <0.003, <0.003 1.1, 1.4 0.8, 0.2 50, 50
567, 577, 587, 568, 578, 588 14, 8 <0.01, <0.01 <0.2, <0.2 0.4, 0.6 <0.01, <0.01 <0.05, <0.05 <0.05, <0.05 0.2, 0.5 <0.03, <0.03 <0.01, <0.01 0.1, <0.1 <0.05, <0.05 <0.02, <0.02 <0.1, <0.1 <0.2, <0.2 <0.003, <0.003 1.1, 1.4 0.8, 0.2 70, 70

 

167 posted on 10/18/2006 2:08:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: EdLake
"They ASSUMED the silicon and oxygen were in the form of silica because silica is used in "weaponizing" spores."

You are an idiot. You know nothing. They found silica. They reported silica. You don't even know what makes silica.

169 posted on 10/18/2006 2:14:27 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: EdLake
"But that was just an ASSUMPTION. They had no reason to think it might have been manufactured glass instead."

You are an idiot. Silica is an additive for weaponizing anthrax. Find silica in anthrax and you've found weaponization, not "contamination" that doesn't (can't) happen because pure fused silica glass doesn't leave traces of itself (that's why people go to the expense of using it for equipment in lab analysis).

170 posted on 10/18/2006 2:17:26 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: EdLake; Southack
What about manufactured glass? What about quartz? How did they know the graph didn't represent traces of manufactured glass absorbed from a Petri dish? Silica is used as a raw material feedstock for the production of glass where it is mixed with lime and soda and quartz has it own signature in a spectrometer, because of impurities.

A high purity grade of silica, fused silica (which is around 99.4-99.9% SiO2) is produced by carbon arc, plasma arc, gas fired continual extrusion or carbon electrode fusion.

My point is if a lab says it is Silica, bet your bibby on it.

239 posted on 10/20/2006 4:26:14 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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