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Korean test seen as only partial blast
Washington Times ^ | 10/13/06 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 10/13/2006 8:10:47 AM PDT by 1curiousmind

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To: Mr. Mojo

You dont think that they could contain the radiation escape in that J shaped tunnel with the blast doors?


21 posted on 10/13/2006 8:58:44 AM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Fox just reporting that aircraft up and down the Korean coast cannot detect any fallout. It is going to be interesting what develops.


22 posted on 10/13/2006 9:00:28 AM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: 1curiousmind

"Onry two-hunna tons?! It supposabe twenny kiroton! Now evabody gonna tink my rittre Kimmy is rearry rittre."


23 posted on 10/13/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Concho

A nuclear device of that size is way beyond their capability. (And on a side note: Do you know how hard it is to start using the "L" key again after writing a sarcastic, I'm-so-ronery post?!) Larger devices allow for a sloppier implosion charge. If you can get some of the "pit" to compress enough to initiate the fission chain reaction, then the neutrons released will get most of the rest of the pit going as well. With a smaller pit, the margin for error goes way down. A slight imperfection will blow the pit apart rather than compressing it. This was either a fizzle or a fake.


24 posted on 10/13/2006 9:15:51 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Rome2000
He eats dogs and kimchi and wears pajamas in the daytime?

The pajamas in the daytime and porno movies sends chills down my spine.

25 posted on 10/13/2006 9:20:22 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: 1curiousmind

How about the poor bastar...uh, technicians who have to haul it out of there.


26 posted on 10/13/2006 9:28:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: 1curiousmind
So North Korea's initial tests failed, claims unnamed intel sources. Big deal. Yesterday, Kim was threatening to set off a hydrogen bomb in a new test. That threat was published in European media reports. The U.S. news media sat on their hands. ABC, NBC, SeeBS all ignored the threat so it never happened. Just like China's threats to nuke the west coast never happened. Only what appears on the nightly television news happens. The country falls asleep in front of their television sets every night. Nothing ever happens. Except for the Foley scandals. They are still in the news. Go back to sleep, people.
27 posted on 10/13/2006 9:28:39 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: ex-Texan

don't get me wrong. I think the guy's got to go. now. if nothing else just to send a message to that Iranian shrimp and Ego Chavez.

bluffing or not...see ya!


28 posted on 10/13/2006 9:31:19 AM PDT by 1curiousmind
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To: 1curiousmind
The detected explosion likely was produced by the conventional high-explosives used to split the plutonium atoms and produce a nuclear explosion, one official said

This official has no clue how a nuclear bomb works.

29 posted on 10/13/2006 9:32:05 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: east1234

It just doesn't compute. I am not doubting the ability to NK to eventually produce a fission nuke, and without being usefully specific, that time could be fairly soon. But the amount of explosives req'd to compress/assemble the core of such a device is massively less than...tons. It's kilos. The explosive lens assembly and its detonation, is a very complex issue to work out. As is the initiator. I suspect NK will eventually get it.

This could have three or four ways been a fizzle, in the form of a badly initiated bomb, or even-isotope polluted Pu, or a few other things, spearately or together. This could have been a big pile of conventional explosives. I'm not confident anyone (outside of NK) knows, at least anyone who is credibly saying.


30 posted on 10/13/2006 9:39:09 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: ex-Texan
Yesterday, Kim was threatening to set off a hydrogen bomb in a new test.

I hear that he's also threatening to test a Solaranite Bomb, a Calcinator Death Ray, an Omega-13 Device, and the fearsome Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.

31 posted on 10/13/2006 9:50:58 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Right after the "test," NK made a big deal about saying all radiation was contained. That tells me it was probably a fake done with conventional explosives.


32 posted on 10/13/2006 9:58:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
Problem is, there's really no way to know or tell if any assertion, by either side in this whole thing is true or false. NK's assertion that no radiation escaped could just be more bluster pimping their self-proclaimed tech expertise, or it could be just true. I don't know how we can know.
33 posted on 10/13/2006 10:10:34 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: east1234
"So he wrapped 200 tons of HE around a softball size sphere of plutonium "

LOL, I kinda doubt that. Wish reporters had a tiny clue of how these things work. Then maybe we could get a story that is not full of impossible assertions stated as facts.

34 posted on 10/13/2006 10:32:39 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: steve-b

"Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator"

Oh Great! Just where the hell did he get this? Damn Chicoms!

I still the he tested a plutonium core, if it works you have a small nuke, you're also further along to a fussion device. Kim has limited plutonium and U235. Deuterium ain't that tough to get. As I recall H is 1 part in 4000 D.


35 posted on 10/13/2006 11:23:35 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: 1curiousmind

Wouldn't a partial detonation would leave an awful lot radioactive material around?


36 posted on 10/13/2006 12:18:22 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Those that do not heed the warnings of history....)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
NK's assertion that no radiation escaped could just be more bluster pimping their self-proclaimed tech expertise, or it could be just true. I don't know how we can know.

We have a wee bit of experience exploding nuclear bombs in this country. We know what is and is not possible.

37 posted on 10/13/2006 12:29:41 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: east1234
Oh Great! Just where the hell did he get this?

Clinton personally hand-carried the plans to him. It was all over Rush's show.

38 posted on 10/13/2006 12:36:34 PM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: gridlock

Fully understood. But we cannot access the ground in the vicinity of the alleged NK test as we could in Nevada to take readings. Plenty of US underground nuke tests took place where "no radiation was released". We may not be able to get close enough to their airspace to distinguish via aerial or satellite means between background radiation and whatever might have been released by an actual blast. And over and above all that, if no nuclear blast occurred and no radiation was released, then why are we insisting on a UN censure? All I'm saying is, we peons can not know what happened.


39 posted on 10/13/2006 12:37:28 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (When Bubba lies, the finger flies!)
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To: 1curiousmind

Failure or deliberate fake?


40 posted on 10/13/2006 12:37:41 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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