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research | 10/12/06 | penelopesire

Posted on 10/12/2006 7:02:12 PM PDT by penelopesire

here goes nothing:

I wrote this to you all last week(just didn't send it)....since then, much has come to light! My stuff has been sent to the FBI and Hastert's office from a (you'll love this).....KINKOS....lol.

However..the FBI has my real name and all relevant info, should they ever give a damn.

But this much I have ready to go tonight. Please excuse the typos, the somewhat disjointed format, etc.:

Dear Fellow Freepers,

Many of you have written and asked me to let you know what my research into the whole Foleygate has revealed and I think it is time to put it out there and let you folks decide. Whether or not it is later to be discovered as a piece of this Foley Scandal, IT IS STILL EXTREMELY DISTURBING! When several Freepers brought up blogactive.com the first day the scandal broke, I went there to see what it was all about. It disgusted me the minute the first page opened and it was obvious this man was a vicious little gay blackmailer and extortionist! After reading through the site and doing some googling around with his name, MR. MIKE ROGERS could be nothing but the prime ‘suspect’ in this whole affair. As most of you know by now, he admitted as much. So while the really good freeper’s were getting to the bottom of the immediate questions, like who were the actors, who sent the emails and instant message and who knew what and when, I was still trying to google Mike Rogers into the bottomless pit of the internet….lol. A fellow freeper( who doesn’t want to be named) sent me a link to Mike Rogers resume online and that was what really got the ball moving in a more focused direction.

Here is what I discovered:

His last known job was listed as a fundraising consultant for Marge Barton & Associates out of NY from 1/97-present. So I started there and from what I can tell, Marge Barton is deceased now, but was instrumental in starting a company called gayellowpages.com (one y, not two). Then I did a domain search on the site where I found it and here is what it turned up:

ghttp://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/09/30/150710.phpayellowpages.com

Registrant: Make this info private

The Gay Yellow Pages PO Box 533 Village Station New York, NY 10014-0533 US

Domain Name: GAYELLOWPAGES.COM

Administrative Contact : Green, Frances 102315.1754@COMPUSERVE.COM PO BOX 533 NEW YORK, NY 10014-0533 US Phone: (212) 420-1127 Fax: (212) 420-1126

Technical Contact : Ard, Ferrell ** ferrell@BADPUPPY.COM 414 High Point Dr. Cocoa, FL 32926 US Phone: 1-321-631-9500 Fax: 1-321-631-8028

Record expires on 09-Apr-2008 Record created on 08-Apr-1997 Database last updated on 27-May-2006

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS2.BADPUPPY.COM 12.41.88.211

NS1.BADPUPPY.COM 12.41.88.8

Show underlying registry data for this record

Now..pay attention to this character above and the address: Ferrell Ard and 414 High Point Drive, Cocoa, Florida 32926

I then decided to go to the website that his email indicated. Badpuppy.com Not going to link it because it is a disgusting gay porno and ‘hook up’ site. I hurriedly copied the URL and went searching domain registers with that site. That domain search turned up other intriguing clues. It is Registered as Bad Puppy Enterprises , Inc. A man by the name of William Pinyon and Ferrell Ard at 414 High Point Drive, Cocoa, Florida. I won’t waste bandwidth printing out the domain results, but you can go look them up if you are interested. I later discovered he has several gay porn sites.

Next I decided to google Ferrell Ard into the wee hours of the morning and here is where it gets intriguing. One link I found for him was on POLITICS1 website:

Politics1.com

Looking for his name on the site, I found an ad that said this:

http://www.politics1.com/websites.htm

from the site:

"Softec Systems is proud to host the Politics1 site and provide it with fast, responsive technical support. We also host the popular HillZoo.com site for Congressional staffers and the homepage of The Congressional Club (the official organization for Congressional spouses). Softec provides a full range of Internet services including website hosting, high-speed dedicated business connections, DS-3 and T1 connectivity, USENET feeds, DNS, email, dual redundancy and website development. Regardless of whether you're running for town council or US Senator, we have affordable plans that will fit your budget. Visit Softec at www.softecsys.net to learn more. Over 17,000 clients in 72 countries around the globe. Principals: William G. Pinyon, Ferrell Ard. Address: 414 High Point Drive, Cocoa, FL 32926. Telephone: 321.634.1878 (Toll Free: 800.766.0795)."

WTH???? Softec is 'hosting' webpages for CONGRESSIONAL STAFFERS??

So off to the Softec Systems site where I found this:

Meet Our Staff At Softec Systems we have put together the finest staff in Central Florida. Executives President and CEO William G. Pinyon Vice President Ferrell Ard Sales Team William Pinyon Ferrell Ard Lisa Turner Web Publishing Team Benjamin Morton Carol Morton David Watson Visual Design David Watson Customer Support Team Supervisor Dick Brown Nick Braun Jeff Goodrich Shawn Layton Mario Davis Software Development Supervisor Max Zechinato Michael O'Neil Pete Hankins Curt Camp Products/Shipping Steven Wojcik Network Administration Ferrell Ard In House Operations Finance David Paquette

NOW, I really could not sleep, so I decided to make a pot of coffee and pull an ‘all nighter’.

The domain search on politics1 turned up this:

Administrative Contact: Ron Gunzburger Ron Gunzburger 409 NE 17 Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301-1345 US Phone: 954-557-4911 Email:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @politics1.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Register.Com Domain Registrar 575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor New York, NY 10018 US Phone: 902-749-2701 Fax..: 902-749-5429 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.SOFTECSYS.NET 12.41.88.9 NS2.SOFTECSYS.NET 12.41.88.212

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

HERE WE GO AGAIN……SOFTEC SYSTEMS AGAIN ABOVE

(MANY MAY KNOW ALREADY) MR. GUNZBURGER IS A PRETTY NOTORIOUS POLITICO FROM FLORIDA. His mother was made famous in the 2000 recount in Broward County. Here is his Wikipedia entry:

Ronald M. "Ron" Gunzburger (b. 1963) is a Florida attorney, communications consultant, and publisher of the Politics1.com website. Born in New England, Gunzburger grew up in South Florida. He earned his B.A. degree in Political Science from George Washington University in 1984, and then worked as a legislative assistant in two Congressional offices on Capitol Hill. He then went to Vermont Law School, where he earned the J.D. degree cum laude in 1987. Specializing in direct mail and message development, Ron Gunzburger worked as a professional campaign consultant for 20 years in over 125 campaigns ranging from municipal races through Congressional campaigns. His innovative and often humorous campaign ads have been featured on NBC's Today Show, CNN's Headline News and in numerous print articles. Selected by the US Secretary of Defense, Gunzburger spent nine days participating in DOD's prestigious JCOC program in 2001. Most recently, Gunzburger volunteered in January 2004 as a Howard Dean campaign GOTV ward captain in Concord, New Hampshire during the primary campaign. He remains active in numerous civic and progressive organizations. A trial attorney since 1988, Gunzburger has previously served as an Assistant Public Defender, an Assistant Attorney General of Florida (RICO Unit, Economic Crimes Division), and as a litigation partner in a large national law firm. Gunzburger was a candidate for Broward County Judge in 1994, losing in the run-off (45% - 149,000 votes). He was again a candidate in 2002, challenging an incumbent Circuit Court Judge in the 17th Judicial Circuit (Broward County) of Florida – in a county where no incumbent circuit judge had lost a race for re-election in over 60 years – but missed qualifying for the run-off by a 2% margin. He is currently General Counsel and Director of Administration for Broward County Property Appraiser Lori Parrish. The South Florida Business Journal honored Gunzburger and 39 others in 1998 with its prestigious "40 Under 40 Award" for achieving career excellence before age 40. [edit] Politics1.com Moving into the realm of new media, he created and launched the Politics1 web site in late 1997. While the site initially published a political newsletter (The Politics1 Report), Gunzburger converted the weekly newsletter into an online blog in late 2001. On May 6, 2006, Gunzburger announced that he intends to run for a Broward County, Florida judge, and turn the day to day operations of his website to his partner, Dana F. Buker [1]. A few days later, he announced that he decided against running for judge, even though it was likely that he would run unopposed, because of his passion for politics [2]. He has therefore resumed running his website. [edit] Family Ron Gunzburger is the son of Sue Gunzburger, who earned national attention for her prominent role in the 2000 Presidential recount as the Broward County Commission Chair who served on the Broward County Election Canvassing Board. Ron got his first political experience working on his mother's winning campaign for Hollywood, Florida, City Commissioner in 1982. In June 2006, Gunzburger went to Toronto to marry his partner of 19 years, Dana Buker [3]. [edit] External links • Ron Gunzburger's biography on his website Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Gunzburger" Categories: 1963 births | Living people | American entrepreneurs

INTERESTING….ISN’T IT? It can be safely assumed at this point in the dig that he and Ferrell Ard know each other in some way, since Ferrell Ard bought ad space on his website. But it is not conclusive. So let’s continue……and leave Ron Gunzburger here for the moment and head back to Mr. Ferrell Ard from 414 High Point Drive, Cocoa, Florida 32926..shall we?

Upon further reading on Ferrell Ard, I discovered that our little model businessman is a member in the BBB in Florida:

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:Nx8SHz2m7hIJ:www.orlando.bbb.org/codbrep.html%3FID%3D12001172%26cons%3Dy+%22Ferrell+ARD%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=17

and the Chamber of Commerce:

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:SjMsu20ZuzEJ:www.cocoabeachchamber.com/home/Pages/MemberSearchAlphaPage.cfm%3Fletter%3DS+%22Ferrell+ARD%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=11

But I digress….now back to the really disturbing part:

RON GUNZBURGER

Gunzburger’s move to Hillzoo according to Law.com:

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:hmzMz4wksUwJ:www.law.com/special/professionals/amlaw/lateral/jkl.html+%22Lobby+For+Me,+Inc.%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd

WELL WELL WELL…now we have a good reason to believe Ron and Ferrell are pretty tight! I am not sure when SOFTEC SYSTEMS, which is owned by the GAY PORN KING, got the gig over at HILLZOO. COM or whether Gunzburger was even there when he got it. But it might be a good question for the media to ask him or a grand Jury!!

Domain results for hillzoo.com: Registrant: Lobby For Me, Inc. Lori Walker 7721 Schelhorn Road Alexandria, VA 22306 US Email: *******@lobbyforme.com

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC. Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: hillzoo.com

Created on..............: Tue, Jul 04, 2000 Expires on..............: Sun, Jul 04, 2010 Record last updated on..: Thu, May 18, 2006

Administrative Contact: Lobby For Me. Inc. Bill Sarpalius 908 Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E. Washington, dc 20003 US Phone: 4105077865 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @hillzoo.com

Technical Contact: Lobby For Me. Inc. Bill Sarpalius 908 Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E. Washington, dc 20003 US Phone: 4105077865 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @hillzoo.com

DNS Servers:

dns1.textdrive.com dns2.textdrive.com dns3.textdrive.com dns4.textdrive.com

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

WELL..it is hidden pretty good..but another domain search later under LOBBYFORME and we get this:

WHOIS results for lobbyforme.com Generated by www.DNSstuff.com [Caching always on for search engines and InfoPath]

Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC. Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK [the normal status for a domain when it is locked] Dates: Created 25-oct-1999 Updated 29-aug-2006 Expires 25-oct-2007 DNS Servers: DNS11.REGISTER.COM DNS12.REGISTER.COM

I was referred to whois.register.com; I'm looking it up there.

The data in Register.com's WHOIS database is provided to you by Register.com for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. Register.com makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to Register.com (or its systems). The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Register.com. Register.com reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.

Registrant: Bill Sarpalius Bill Sarpalius 124 Eareckson Stevensville, MD 21666 US Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @usadvantage.us

Registrar Name....: REGISTER.COM, INC. Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: www.register.com

Domain Name: lobbyforme.com

Created on..............: Mon, Oct 25, 1999 Expires on..............: Thu, Oct 25, 2007 Record last updated on..: Wed, Aug 30, 2006

Administrative Contact: Bill Sarpalius Bill Sarpalius 124 Eareckson Stevensville, MD 21666 US Phone: +1.2024381900 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @usadvantage.us

Technical Contact: Softec Internet Services Ferrell Ard 414 High Point Drive Cocoa, FL 32926 US Phone: 321-634-1878 Email: *******@softecsys.net

DNS Servers:

dns11.register.com dns12.register.com

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

LOOK CLOSE…SOFTEC SYSTEMS IS UP THERE….Wonder why he did not provide his email at BADPUPPY over on Capital Hill? Inquiring minds want to know…….. Let’s go back to Ron Gunzburger for a moment…shall we?

(Later, I will post my research on Bill Sarapalius(owner of domain and former democrat member of Congress from Texas)

Gunzburger has his own web page:

Gunzburger.com (not linking to these sites and you can probably guess why…but you guys can go….lol) But here’s the Domain search: WHOIS results for gunzburger.com Generated by www.DNSstuff.com [Caching always on for search engines and InfoPath]

Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC. Status: ACTIVE [the normal status for a domain when it is unlocked] Dates: Created 05-nov-1999 Updated 11-oct-2002 Expires 05-nov-2011 DNS Servers: NS1.SOFTECSYS.NET NS2.SOFTECSYS.NET

I was referred to whois.register.com; I'm looking it up there. The data in Register.com's WHOIS database is provided to you by Register.com for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. Register.com makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to Register.com (or its systems). The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Register.com. Register.com reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.

Organization: Ron Gunzburger Ron Gunzburger 409 NE 17 Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301-1345 US Phone: 954-557-4911 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @politics1.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: GUNZBURGER.COM

Created on..............: Fri, Nov 05, 1999 Expires on..............: Sat, Nov 05, 2011 Record last updated on..: Fri, Feb 24, 2006

Administrative Contact: Ron Gunzburger Ron Gunzburger 409 NE 17 Avenue Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301-1345 US Phone: 954-557-4911 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @politics1.com

Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Register.Com Domain Registrar 575 8th Avenue - 11th Floor New York, NY 10018 US Phone: 902-749-2701 Fax..: 902-749-5429 Email: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @register.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.SOFTECSYS.NET 12.41.88.9 NS2.SOFTECSYS.NET 12.41.88.212

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

AWE…..How sweet. They really do know each other. Looks like that old ‘badpuppy’ and Ron do a lot of business together!! NOTICE THE DNS SERVER!! NS1.SOFTECSYS.NET NS2.SOFTECSYS.NET

YEP….THAT’s ole BAD PUPPY, Ferrell Ard!!

This is pretty interesting too, but irrelevant(maybe):

Gunzburger marries Boyfriend

http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:kynlypEOn4kJ:shamgarreport.blogspot.com/2006/06/ron-gunzburger-marries-boyfriend.html+Ron+Gunzburger&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7

You guys can google Ole Ron and find out that he dropped out of some race in Florida under pretty intriguing circumstances….. I am sure you can find lots of other connections.

Now we know from other great bloggers work out there the connection between John Avarosis and Mike Rogers…..

And here we have Melanie Snow from CREW with John Aravoisis:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=%22Melanie+Sloan%22+%2B+%22john++aravosis%22&btnG=Search

There is lots more…but this is enough to ask ourselves some very important questions at this point. There are certainly lots of intriguing questions here….. and it may just be nothing (according to the Florida FBI chick I talked to yesterday) In the middle of my story, she asked me what was wrong with this PORNO KING RUNNING WEB SITES FOR CONGRESSIONAL STAFFERS and why he could not have two businesses.

Enter heavy sigh and a call today to the Texas boys! I doubt they will call me back either…...we’ll see. She just took the info and pretty much tried to get rid of me the minute I brought Ron Gunzburger into the mix!! Maybe she is a democrat….lol… I honestly did not know who the man was before I began this search…..lol

Here are my questions, regardless of whether this SOFTEC SYSTEMS is involved in this particular scandal. Can they capture info on these Congressional Staffers webpages by being the internet provider, etc.? Who hired them and why? AND WHAT THE HELL IS A FLORIDA GAY PORN KING doing hosting web pages on Capitol Hill? Now I understand this is not a government site, but these Congresscritters are not allowed to have campaign type info on their dot gov sites…they have to go elsewhere. How many folks in Congress are using SOFTEC? How many CONGRESSIONAL WIVES ARE?

What the hell is going on!!

Interestingly enough..Nancy Pelosi took her blog down a while back! Here is a link to go find out who has blogs on Capitol Hill.

Here is the link: be careful…... I think it is owned by none other than RON GUNZBURGER….lol

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:eZFhmRYtTVIJ:www.pkblogs.com/lawmakers+%22Nancy+Pelosi%22+%2B+%22+Ron+Gunzburger%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10

It came up under a search for connections between ole ‘nancy and ron’…LOL (HAS A CERTAIN SWEET RING TO IT…..) Hey…..maybe these two can run for the Executive Seat at THE BIG HOUSE???????

Heading to bed…..so if this gets posted…I may not be responding to it until the morning. But tell me what you think folks….is there a there there…or have I googled myself into stupidity…..LOL

FREEPERS ROCK!!


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: foley; foleygate; foleygateresearch; gunzburger; mikerogers; pelosi
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To: SoCalPol

thanks


101 posted on 10/12/2006 10:17:55 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: penelopesire

did you ever see the former page Jordan Edmund now 21 web page on myspace?


102 posted on 10/12/2006 10:18:18 PM PDT by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: windchime
More along the (former) NASA employee/porn connection...

This is the Google cache of the article, "Bad Puppy Aquires Gay Who' Who Search Engine."

Interesting part of the article...

"Badpuppy.com is the oldest and largest Gay adult mega-site on the Internet," noted Turner. "Badpuppy, in its early beginnings, was a simple BBS homepage operated out of its owner, Bill Pinyon's, bedroom. In 1995 we had only one 286 computer with a 28.8 dial-up connection to the Internet. My, how things change! We currently have 23 employees on staff and three of those are previous NASA administrators, [including] Badpuppy's owner, Bill Pinyon. Now we have our own Dual DS3 connections to the Internet, and one of the most sophisticated and secure systems developed for an adult Website. We now have 24/7 technical and customer support, too. As far as I'm aware, we are the only gay adult site that offers this kind of service for both the sites hosted here. What was once considered the ultimate twink Website has certainly grown up!"

103 posted on 10/12/2006 10:18:36 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: holdonnow
You might be very interested in this about open source information by a freeper regarding foleygate -

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1718486/posts
104 posted on 10/12/2006 10:22:07 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: tgslTakoma

Oh Nasa should be so proud of their former employees.


105 posted on 10/12/2006 10:23:25 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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bookmark.


106 posted on 10/12/2006 10:28:30 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: tgslTakoma

Bingo......these dudes are techies from 'outta space'....lol

I hope some understand now, why I was flippin last week!
I am a big nobody. I do landscape architect stuff....for cryin out loud!!

My email started dropping into a blackhole ....stuff I put in my word documents disappeared.

Hubby took off work.....lol


107 posted on 10/12/2006 10:29:23 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

bttt

(Good stuff there Pen!)


108 posted on 10/12/2006 10:31:02 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: tgslTakoma

Whoa! Wonder how much of this stuff is going to disappear as we find it?


109 posted on 10/12/2006 10:31:16 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: penelopesire

LOL! Telepathy. (Post #109)


110 posted on 10/12/2006 10:33:56 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: tgslTakoma; penelopesire

You raise an interesting connection with Condit (my former congresscritter btw).

If you recall, back at the time Condit was being investigated by the DC police, his apartment/townhouse was searched by the forensic guys.

Reports at that time (don't remember if it was MSM or Enquirer) stated that semen samples were recovered throughout the apt from multiple sources.

Raises a question in my mind, was ol' gary part of an inner circle of Congresscritters ala Foley and Sarpalius? Hmmmm?

Meanwhile, Chandra Levy is still very dead, Gary's selling ice cream in Arizona and we're stuck with Dennis Cardoza (D) as our rep.


111 posted on 10/12/2006 10:36:27 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: UNGN; penelopesire
I'm confused. Is he this guy who gave that gave money to Delay? Why does Salon identify him as a former Republican with connections to a Delay foundation? Over here he's listed as one of 2 Democrats who voted to expel Barney Frank.
112 posted on 10/12/2006 10:37:49 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

yes..you are confused.


113 posted on 10/12/2006 10:43:13 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

LOL, straighten me out then. Is he a Democrat?


114 posted on 10/12/2006 10:44:40 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: All

Im new here but have been watching and reading for over a week.

Some darn good stuff here. Some wonderful computer work too. Ive sent the link to a couple site who I wont mention concidering the dissapearing emails lol.

Thanks to all who are working on this.


115 posted on 10/12/2006 10:46:28 PM PDT by GoodRepubBoy
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To: Dolphy

straighten yourself out dude.....what in the hell does Delay have to do with this?


116 posted on 10/12/2006 10:48:12 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

marker - for my silly coworker


117 posted on 10/12/2006 10:54:25 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: windchime; Just mythoughts
The lunch with Clinton was on September 12.

Lunch with Clinton

Picture

118 posted on 10/12/2006 10:56:30 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: penelopesire

Geesh, Delay has nothing to do with it outside of the fact that he was target number one of the Democrats for how long? Then I see this guy Bill Sarpalius name come up and became curious what he was all about.


119 posted on 10/12/2006 10:56:53 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

I see..well go lookin for bill SArp then. He looks a bit freaky to me too.....lol.

Here is a hint...everytime the dems go shadow boxing with our party?...you can bet your daughter's tuition that they have something to hide...


lololol


120 posted on 10/12/2006 11:04:15 PM PDT by penelopesire
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