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Iraqi Dead May Total 600,000, Study Says [NYTimes May Survive, Some Say]
The New York Times ^ | October 11, 2006 | By SABRINA TAVERNISE and DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.

Posted on 10/11/2006 8:08:06 AM PDT by aculeus

BAGHDAD, Oct. 10 — A team of American and Iraqi public health researchers has estimated that 600,000 civilians have died in violence across Iraq since the 2003 American invasion, the highest estimate ever for the toll of the war here.

The figure breaks down to about 15,000 violent deaths a month, a number that is quadruple the one for July given by Iraqi government hospitals and the morgue in Baghdad and published last month in a United Nations report in Iraq. That month was the highest for Iraqi civilian deaths since the American invasion.

But it is an estimate and not a precise count, and researchers acknowledged a margin of error that ranged from 426,369 to 793,663 deaths.

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600,000 with a margin of error from 426,369 to 793,663.

Who says Pinch doesn't have a sense of humor?

1 posted on 10/11/2006 8:08:09 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Pales when you remember how many Saddam the madman killed.


2 posted on 10/11/2006 8:09:17 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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To: shankbear

Or when you compare it to the number that most rational people think is the correct figure. This study was completely fictional.


3 posted on 10/11/2006 8:11:12 AM PDT by ilovew (I love being a DoD intern...)
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To: aculeus

Cripes, why not a margin of error from 426,369.31 to 793,662.97.


4 posted on 10/11/2006 8:11:29 AM PDT by dighton
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To: aculeus

69% killed by terrorists should be the headline. Probably half of the number left were terrorists.


5 posted on 10/11/2006 8:13:47 AM PDT by westmichman (The minds of the media and Dems are one-dementional..."HATE Bush")
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To: aculeus

If it's October in a US election year, look for another bogus report on Iraqi deaths from Lancet.

The release of the first bogus Lancet report (remember the 100,000 dead trope?) was released in October 2004.

This, the second bogus Lancet report, is released in October 2006.

At this rate, the bogus Lancet report released in October 2008 will count > 2 million Iraqi dead.


6 posted on 10/11/2006 8:17:05 AM PDT by Parmenio
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To: westmichman

I think that your 69% is way too low it's probably more in the range of 90.


7 posted on 10/11/2006 8:18:33 AM PDT by snowman1
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To: snowman1

The number is from the Glenn Beck show, so if I am wrong, he is too.


8 posted on 10/11/2006 8:20:13 AM PDT by westmichman (The minds of the media and Dems are one-dementional..."HATE Bush")
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To: westmichman

You must mean the new improved NON-PARTISAN, Cumbayah singing, "why can't we just all get along" Glenn Beck that was hosting his show this morning. I think that he has been cnn'd!

LLS


9 posted on 10/11/2006 8:25:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: aculeus
AP story by MALCOLM RITTER already debunked.

see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717405/posts

10 posted on 10/11/2006 8:26:23 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Well, if 1 in 25 people in Iraq were pro Saddam or pro Terrorist then I would have no trouble with that number if it is correct. Add a few more zeros to it for all I give a pig's @$$.


11 posted on 10/11/2006 8:26:27 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

If Glenn Beck is not conservative, then conservatives don't exist.


12 posted on 10/11/2006 8:29:07 AM PDT by westmichman (The minds of the media and Dems are one-dementional..."HATE Bush")
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To: shankbear
Notice how the NYTs doesn't feel it's important to mention that the vast majority of those have been killed by foreign and domestic insurgents, not by the US military or by the new Iraqi government.
13 posted on 10/11/2006 8:30:04 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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Yeah, and I wonder who is responsible for more of those killed, the US military or the terrorists?


14 posted on 10/11/2006 8:30:40 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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Cripes, why not a margin of error from 426,369.31 to 793,662.97.

Because now you're manufacturing precision. /sarc

15 posted on 10/11/2006 8:34:03 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: dighton
Cripes, why not a margin of error from 426,369.31 to 793,662.97.

They cautiously rounded the actual numbers.

16 posted on 10/11/2006 8:34:13 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

A whole lot of "Assuming" going on in this study and it is curious that it comes out weeks before an election-just like their last study.


17 posted on 10/11/2006 8:35:17 AM PDT by westmichman (The minds of the media and Dems are one-dementional..."HATE Bush")
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To: Parmenio
At this rate, the bogus Lancet report released in October 2008 will count > 2 million Iraqi dead.

Bingo. If at first you don't succeed, tell a bigger lie the next time. When they saw that the bogus 100,000 figure didn't affect the 2004 election, what else could they do? I shudder to think of where the estimate will be in 2012, but it could easily exceed the population of Iraq.

In a separate study, I have just estimated that the total killed in Clinton's war in Bosnia was 15,239,651 give or take.

18 posted on 10/11/2006 8:35:33 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: ilovew
This study was completely fictional.

Whatever the number, those who would inflate it and say these people would be alive but for the invasion are begging the reader to condemn the US actions. They are begging Western nations to be even more risk averse to taking on difficult swamp-draining tasks. Nobody wants these no-win situations, but it is necessary for the civilized world to establish a limit to the endless games played by oppressive, aggressive regimes who, one way or another, will get WMDs.

19 posted on 10/11/2006 8:36:07 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: aculeus

It's a start.


20 posted on 10/11/2006 8:38:14 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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