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Angelides Seen as a Drag on the Party [California Dems fear "ticket-wide collapse"
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 9, 2006 | Michael Finnegan and Mark Z. Barabak

Posted on 10/10/2006 8:19:34 PM PDT by freedomdefender

Worried Democrats said Sunday that Phil Angelides failed to achieve the breakthrough he needed in the sole gubernatorial debate and expressed fear that his campaign's trajectory threatened others on the statewide ticket.

Fellow Democrat John Garamendi, in a tight race for lieutenant governor against Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock, has started to distance himself from Angelides. He said in a television interview aired Sunday that he disagreed with an Angelides plan to raise taxes on corporations and the well-to-do.

[snip]On Sunday, the example cited repeatedly by Angelides' disappointed party brethren was the 1994 election, when then-Treasurer Kathleen Brown lost in a landslide and dragged several fellow Democrats down with her.

"When you have a situation like we had in 1994, when the top of the ticket collapses, it clearly has a downdraft effect," said Democratic strategist Garry South.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; calelection; calgov2006; collapse
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1 posted on 10/10/2006 8:19:36 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

Perhaps Angelides should pose for a photo in a tank.


2 posted on 10/10/2006 8:20:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Executive Order wishlist item #1: NO GAYS IN GOVERNMENT)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This from the LA Times? Things must be worse than we thought for the dims in Kalifornia.


3 posted on 10/10/2006 8:21:59 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer
This from the LA Times?

Trying to frighten the dem voters into voting.

4 posted on 10/10/2006 8:29:43 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Parley Baer

Dukakis is about 15 points behind... :)


5 posted on 10/10/2006 8:31:19 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Executive Order wishlist item #1: NO GAYS IN GOVERNMENT)
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To: freedomdefender

I hope this happens. I would love to see McClintock and Poochigian in office.


6 posted on 10/10/2006 8:32:48 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: freedomdefender
"California Dems fear "ticket-wide collapse"

I love the sound of that, though I wish it would say "Dems fear "Nation ticket-wide COLLAPSE"!!

7 posted on 10/10/2006 8:33:27 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Parley Baer
This from the LA Times? Things must be worse than we thought for the dims in Kalifornia.

Don't worry, there will be about a week's worth of hit pieces on Arnold/puff pieces on Mr. Peepers (credit Hugh Hewitt with that one)right before the election, and an interestingly timed free home delivery of the Democrat Times of Los Angeles (credit Larry Elder for that one) at the same time.

I say that, because that's exactly what happened in 2003 a week before the recall election. A week before the election, we started getting the DNC Times free (we don't subscribe), and right after Arnold won, the delivery "mysteriously" stopped. Just be ready, it's coming.

8 posted on 10/10/2006 8:34:33 PM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Ma'am, you don't have to thank us. You just go beat him for us." Soldier to Irey re: Murtha)
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To: freedomdefender
There are two equations in any election. The appeal of the candidate and voter turn out. Both appear to favor conservatives in this election cycle.

Hopefully Angelides will continue to turn off the Democrat base, reducing turnout, creating an even playing field for conservative Republicans.

If conservative Republicans can gain statewide offices, the CaGOP base will be in a much better position to recover from Schwarzenegger when he is finally termed out of office.

9 posted on 10/10/2006 8:45:30 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: freedomdefender

"expressed fear that his campaign's trajectory threatened others "

Never heard an uncontrolled spiral described that way before....


10 posted on 10/10/2006 8:46:34 PM PDT by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: freedomdefender

I still can't understand why Angelides got the democratic nod in the first place. He's a pencil neck geek with a whiny voice and ZERO charisma. They put a guy like that up against a movie star?? In California?? A longtime Clinton kneecap sucker, he could always be counted on to throw a "fundraiser" (translation - influence peddling party) for Clinton when he flew out here for the day at taxpayer expense to pick up a few hundred thousand bucks. It was a disgusting spectacle that apparently Philboy thinks everyone's forgotten.

John Garamendi is a genuinely good man, who would probably be governor right now if he hadn't made his disgust at Clinton's behavior in office so obvious in 1998.


11 posted on 10/10/2006 8:57:26 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Amerigomag
Ahhnold is the perfect politician for CA, lots of flash, no real conservative positions except for taxes.

Ahnold may just resurrect the republican party in CA.
12 posted on 10/10/2006 9:12:38 PM PDT by p[adre29 (Arma in armatos)
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To: Enterprise

Ditto. Any polls available?


13 posted on 10/10/2006 9:21:07 PM PDT by Kay
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Did the Democrat Calif committee have something to do with his being the candidate over Wesley or was it purely the result of the primary? Not a smart move either way. Wesley was a better bet.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 9:27:27 PM PDT by Kay
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To: Kay

LA Times Poll:

Governor (9/30/06): http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2006-09/25655577.pdf

Down Ticket (9/29/06): http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2006-09/25655150.pdf


15 posted on 10/10/2006 9:31:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Kay

There probably is a poll but I don't have a source or a link right now. I will check tomorrow though.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 9:33:17 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: calcowgirl

Bummer. Jerry Brown. Yuck. Yauuck!


17 posted on 10/10/2006 9:39:30 PM PDT by Kay
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To: p[adre29

Arnold will resurrect the Republican party but he is not conservative. It's good that he has an 'R' by his name but conservatives are not a force in CA politics. I wish things were different here.


18 posted on 10/10/2006 9:39:52 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Kay

Sadly, Governor Moonbeam will win. I doubt that middle-of-the-road voters can get past Poochigian's name. Yes, people are that shallow here.


19 posted on 10/10/2006 9:41:26 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: originalbuckeye

Great, then all of California can become like Oakland.

What a future.


20 posted on 10/10/2006 9:43:40 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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