School district teaches students to fight back

News 8 Austin TX ^ | 10/6/06

[Kimmers]

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School district teaches students to fight back 10/6/2006 2:52 PM By: Associated Press

BURLESON, Texas -- With school defense in mind, the Burleson school district is training students and teachers to fight back with everything from books to scissors.

Officials say the “critical incident response'' training for teachers and students instructs them to disrupt attackers by barraging them with classrooms supplies.

Dallas-Fort Worth television station KTVT reports that about 600 teachers in the Burleson Independent School District have been trained in response tactics. The district recently received a $95,000 federal grant to continue the training.

Lisa Crane, the principal of Norwood Elementary, said she was stumped when her husband, a former police officer, first asked her what she would do if a gunman intruded her school.

It led her husband, Greg Crane, to work with fellow police officers and military friends to develop the training.

[Kimmers]

I hope this is not a repeat, I did search but found nothing.

I saw this on FOX. They interviewed a psychologist and he was questioning the effects on the children by using violence against this gunman....Huh?.....lets see death by a crazy gunman or feeling empowered by taking care of yourself....

[rhombus]

Just another method of "conflict resolution".

[Abathar]

Good for them, it worked for the airlines why not the classroom? Far better to go down fighting than to sit there like sheep at the slaughter, the really sick thing is that we have to teach our kids to do something that previous generations would have known and done on instinct.

[SittinYonder]

Fight back ping

[lakeman]

HODA KOROSU or naked kill uses anything at hand as a weapon.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Far better to go down fighting than to sit there like sheep at the slaughter, the really sick thing is that we have to teach our kids to do something that previous generations would have known and done on instinct.

It is literally time to take the country back and throw everyone identifiable out who got us into this mess.

[L98Fiero]

Amen.

[taxesareforever]

What happened to just calling a "timeout"?

[JamesP81]

They interviewed a psychologist and he was questioning the effects on the children by using violence against this gunman

I question the effects on the children of letting a mass murderer shoot and kill said children.

[JamesP81]

the really sick thing is that we have to teach our kids to do something that previous generations would have known and done on instinct.

That's because public skool teaches kids to be subservient minions. My landlord is a high school teacher and he tells me that they have a rule that if some kid comes and punches another kid, and the kid that got punched fights back, they both get in trouble. Now what kind of dumb BS is that?

Glad that Texas is taking a step undo all that insane BS.

[El Gato]

Officials say the “critical incident response'' training for teachers and students instructs them to disrupt attackers by barraging them with classrooms supplies.

A .357, or other firearm, would be better, as the principal of this school stated on KLIF one morning last week... however there is that pesky federal law. Declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, it was passed again by a Republican Congress, after sprinkling in a little more "interstate commerce" pixie dust, and signed by the Impeached One. The original act had been passed by a Democrat Congress, and signed by a Republican president, George H.W. Bush. The original was part of a crime control bill. The replacement was part of the defense appropriations bill.

[wolfcreek]

training for teachers and students instructs them to disrupt attackers by barraging them with classrooms supplies.


The Dims would argue that, in case of mistaken identity, some poor schmuck might be impaled with 1000 pencils.

[GovernmentShrinker]

It is actually state, not federal laws which prevent schools from having teachers and administrators armed. Per this David Kopel article http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTNmZDZhYzg4NTMwODFlMzFmOThjNjhkODMzYzYzMWI= :

It is commonly, but incorrectly, believed that the federal Gun-Free School Zones Act creates an insurmountable barrier to arming teachers. Not so. The GFSZA has a specific exemption for persons who have a concealed handgun carry permit from the state where the school is located, if the state requires a background check before issuance of a permit. It is state laws, not the federal GFSZ Act, which are in need of reform to allow schools to be protected.

[Abathar]

It is that way in our high school here as well, no matter what the circumstances, ever, if you hit back you are suspended right along with the guy who started the fight.

I have told my kids countless times after they come home with bully problems that I will never be mad if they get into trouble for defending themselves or standing up to a bully. I told them that I will handle whatever happens afterwords, and they won't be in any trouble at all as long as they didn't start it. I would far rather see my kid sit home knowing they stood up for themselves than have them afraid to retaliate if it is justified and go to school the next day.

I have told my kids I don't ever want them to start a fight, but I expect them to stand up for themselves and finish it, no matter what the principle says afterwords, thats going to be between him and I, and not to worry about it. Show them respect and let me handle the fallout.

[philman_36]

Speaking of Ausinites and resisting...

[philman_36]

Ausinites = Austinites (I really hate when I do that)

[JamesP81]

I would far rather see my kid sit home knowing they stood up for themselves than have them afraid to retaliate if it is justified and go to school the next day.

What's maddening is that my teacher friend doesn't think it's a big deal at all, but it is. It teaches kids something that will cause them problems later in life, lack of self-worth being the big one. Putting a person into some kind of psychological enslavement will not yield good results. Never will.

[alarm rider]

Oh please. Until someone gets a clue and arms a responsible adult or two in every school, the local nutbars know where to go. Common sense seems a bit uncommon.

[nonsporting]

...the Burleson school district is training students and teachers to fight back with everything from books to scissors.

Do not bring school supplies to a gun fight. You'll just encourage him to shoot the little f*rts that are annoying him.

[Truth29]

I would think a rule like that that expels both the aggressor and the victim would lead to greater violence. If you are going to get kicked out of school anyway, then make sure you do serious harm to the bully.