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the really sick thing is that we have to teach our kids to do something that previous generations would have known and done on instinct.

That's because public skool teaches kids to be subservient minions. My landlord is a high school teacher and he tells me that they have a rule that if some kid comes and punches another kid, and the kid that got punched fights back, they both get in trouble. Now what kind of dumb BS is that?

Glad that Texas is taking a step undo all that insane BS.

It is that way in our high school here as well, no matter what the circumstances, ever, if you hit back you are suspended right along with the guy who started the fight.

I have told my kids countless times after they come home with bully problems that I will never be mad if they get into trouble for defending themselves or standing up to a bully. I told them that I will handle whatever happens afterwords, and they won't be in any trouble at all as long as they didn't start it. I would far rather see my kid sit home knowing they stood up for themselves than have them afraid to retaliate if it is justified and go to school the next day.

I have told my kids I don't ever want them to start a fight, but I expect them to stand up for themselves and finish it, no matter what the principle says afterwords, thats going to be between him and I, and not to worry about it. Show them respect and let me handle the fallout.

I would think a rule like that that expels both the aggressor and the victim would lead to greater violence. If you are going to get kicked out of school anyway, then make sure you do serious harm to the bully.