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N. Korean Nuke Test: China, the Biggest Loser (German newspaper)
Yonhap News ^ | 10/10/06 | Song Byung-seung

Posted on 10/10/2006 7:02:10 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

/begin my translation

N. Korean Nuke Test: China, the Biggest Loser (German newspaper)

(Berlin = Yonhap News) Song Byung-seung = China is the biggest loser from N. Korea's reckless nuclear test, according to Oct. 10 issue of German Daily, Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung.

In its editorial, the paper pointed out, if China cannot control a bankrupt 'brother nation' in its backyard, it would damage the image of China as an aspiring major power of the world.

It argued that N. Korean nuclear test would make China worry about the prospect of nuclear-armed Japan. This will turn into a long-term challenge which demands China's strategic attention.

Up to now, China only has to worry about U.S. as its rival in its region in terms of military and security matters. However, if Japan goes nuclear, two giant powers will clash in E. Asia with more obstinacy and ego, it predicted.

Another daily, Die Welt, reported that the agreement worked out at 6-party talks turned out to be a mirage, nothing more than band-aid solution. As a mediator of the talks and a sponsor of N. Korea, China's credibility was badly damaged.

The paper added that Japan will work more closely with U.S. and push for its nuclear arms, and the similar situation could unfold in S. Korea, both of which are what China has worked to prevent for a long time.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; credibility; japan; nkorea; northkorea; nucleararm; nucleartest; prestige; southkorea
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1 posted on 10/10/2006 7:02:11 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 10/10/2006 7:03:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Germans have their heads up their a$$...


3 posted on 10/10/2006 7:04:22 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If China is the loser then maybe China will step up and take responsibility for the mess created by the Democratic party's "direct talks" strategy of the 90's.


4 posted on 10/10/2006 7:11:13 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China must be having second thoughts about a nutcase with a nuke on their front doorstep............


5 posted on 10/10/2006 7:22:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (CONGRESS NEEDS TO BE DE-FOLEY-ATED...............................)
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To: johnny7
The Germans have their heads up their a$$...

It makes a lot of sense. NK can stir up a lot of trouble that China doesn't want. Besides, who wants a nuclear-equipped madman on his border, even if he is supposedly a friend?

6 posted on 10/10/2006 7:24:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rhombus

One could hope that the Demonrats would also demand an account from China rather than just reflexibly blame President Bush.


7 posted on 10/10/2006 7:25:09 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: TigerLikesRooster
While I believe that currently China is the key to the problem of North Korea, it must also be remembered that historically it was the Soviet Union, in the role of the supreme Socialist nation at the time, that aided the creation of this little monster, educated Kim's daddy, succored his aspirations, and (IIRC: I think the letter from Stalin has been made public) gave the go-ahead and final orders to attack South Korea in 1950 resulting in the conflict there......which leads us to today's situation, 50 years later.

Of course, Pooty-poot is too busy supressing his own people and the States around him, having aspirations of revitalizing the 'Empire' to get involved with his bastard step-child.

8 posted on 10/10/2006 7:42:29 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

You make assumptions... ;)


9 posted on 10/10/2006 7:49:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: DoctorMichael
Re #8

Pooty-poot is actually a vampire.:) Imagine him in a cape and a pair of fangs. He can star as a Vampire of Moscow in a movie, and it will be an instant international hit.:) He is also the head of vampire brotherhood, known as KGB.

10 posted on 10/10/2006 8:04:15 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: johnny7
You make assumptions... ;)

I think we all assume that ol' Kim is -- in the words of the Daily Show's Jon Stewart -- batsh!t insane.

11 posted on 10/10/2006 8:37:19 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: johnny7

And what assumptions are those? (I'm asking because he didn't)


12 posted on 10/10/2006 8:46:14 AM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Ecthelion; antiRepublicrat
He assumes China's overall, foreign-policy strategy/goals are somewhat akin to the western democracies. Using that as a given is building your argument on quicksand. When viewing China, one should look at it not from the past 30 years... but from the revolution.
13 posted on 10/10/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: rhombus
If China is the loser then maybe China will step up and take responsibility

for keeping the Kim Dynasty in power when they invaded the peninsula back in 1950.

14 posted on 10/10/2006 9:01:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: antiRepublicrat
supposedly a friend

Never a friend, not in 1500 years. Cousins. Cousins who ran the opium dens. Not much liked or appreciated.

15 posted on 10/10/2006 9:03:52 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I think the analysis is too simplistic. China has been playing these games for the past 15 or 20 years. If they had wanted to stop North Korea from developing nukes, they would have intervened long since.

You have to wonder why they would want a nuclear madman on their doorstep, just as you have to wonder why Putin wants a nuclear Iran on his doorstep.

But Russia and China are so intent on playing these dangerous games against the West, they just don't seem to worry about their own futures.


16 posted on 10/10/2006 9:09:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: johnny7
He assumes China's overall, foreign-policy strategy/goals are somewhat akin to the western democracies.

Whatever China does has to somehow forward their desire to further become part of the larger trading world and gain more influence. They will push it, but they can't go overboard.

OTOH, Kim is already isolated, so he can do whatever he wants.

17 posted on 10/10/2006 9:28:10 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Thanks for providing us with up-to-date information on the happenings in Asia. Really appreciate the Asia List pings.

Is this a translation from German or Korean (Yonhap)? You are one talented multi-linguist!

18 posted on 10/10/2006 7:34:50 PM PDT by wai-ming
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To: antiRepublicrat; johnny7; AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster

1) The mindset of the Chinese leadership has indeed changed since the Cultural Revolution ended (about 30 years ago). They look for global dominance but are aiming to do it with economic might in hand. China doesn't believe it has achieved enough economic power to take on the US yet.
2) With the above 'assumption', China wouldn't want a nuclear Korean peninsula because it becomes a volatile playground for all powers. Given that Pyongyang is not too far from Beijing, its a risk China is running to let this comedy continue. I am sure they will reign in Kim before the 2008 Olympics if he survives that long. Atleast they'll keep him gagged for a whole 6 months before.
3) There is a risk of nuclearization of Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan that is UNACCEPTABLE to the Chinese. IF the Chinese act quickly, it will only be to address this eventuality.
4) Iran and North Korea, if allowed to continue, will threaten the Russians and the Chinese a lot more than they will threaten the Americans. It will be their own Afghanistan, so to speak. Just like the Mujahideen bit the hands that created them (read the US and Pakistan), these guys will turn around to bite the Ruskies and the Chicoms.
5) As much as talks will not achieve anything, if America sits down with N. Korea along with a shandow presence of S. Korea and Japan, it might be able to arm-twist Kim into doing things their way. It is clear that Kim is ronery, and his Chicom masters have 'deserted' him. I think its a good time to say "Come to Daddy". This last point of course is an opinion and the experts on the thread will know better if such an idea will work.


19 posted on 10/11/2006 12:04:14 AM PDT by MimirsWell (Musharraf - In the line of (back)fire.)
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To: MimirsWell

So how long have you worked at the Chinese Embassy... Mim Wee?


20 posted on 10/11/2006 4:32:54 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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