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Angelides, Schwarzenegger Driven by Contrasting Views of American Dream
LAT ^ | Oct. 9, 2006 | Robert Salladay

Posted on 10/09/2006 8:34:28 PM PDT by FairOpinion

The Austrian bodybuilder and the grandson of Greek immigrants are self-made men, millionaires both, the embodiment of the ambitions of most who venture here. But as they seek the governorship, the personalities and experiences of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Phil Angelides have led them to far different views about the appropriate role of government in Californians' lives.

"When I came to California with absolutely nothing, I only had a dream and a gym bag in my hand and $20. That's all I had. And because of California, I could make a successful life," the Republican governor told a crowd in San Diego not long ago.

Angelides' story may lack the immediate drama of Schwarzenegger's, but in three generations here the struggles of his family and the salvation they found in hard times forged a lasting view of government as protector.

"It isn't a matter of whether you are willing to work hard enough; it's whether you get breaks along the way," Angelides, a Democrat, recalls being told by his father.

Still, it is the sense of a man scrambling for success unaided that is at the heart of Schwarzenegger's political argument. At a campaign event in Sacramento this year, a student asked Schwarzenegger how to manage working full time and juggling college studies. She found it impossible. The governor told her to simply work harder.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; schwarzenegger
Arnold believes in individual responsibility and the power of individuals, while Angelides believes people need the government to "protect them" and tell them what to do, socialist, Marxist view.

Whom would you rather have as governor? You are getting your chance to choose

1 posted on 10/09/2006 8:34:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
At a campaign event in Sacramento this year, a student asked Schwarzenegger how to manage working full time and juggling college studies. She found it impossible. The governor told her to simply work harder.

Geez, I'm sure the LA Times isn't putting any spin on this one.

2 posted on 10/09/2006 8:40:01 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold believes in individual responsibility ... while Angelides believes people need the government to "protect them"

AB 1400?

4 posted on 10/09/2006 8:43:23 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion

If this state isn't in bad hands now with Boxer & Feinstein, I'm sure Angelides will really drive this state further down the toilet. And there are just enough idiot voters here to see that happen.


5 posted on 10/09/2006 8:43:48 PM PDT by rbosque
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To: rbosque

Right now ARnold is leading but people still need to turn out and actually cast their votes.


6 posted on 10/09/2006 8:48:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
New Arnold Ads out today:

SCRIPT FOR "TOMORROW":

In the years ahead, Governor Schwarzenegger will continue to prove that a booming economy and a healthy environment can go hand-in-hand.

His education budget is the largest in California history, and he’s leading the way to invest [BORROW] $10 billion to rebuild our schools, and modernize classrooms.

He’ll find solutions for affordable health care and make quality a top priority.

Governor Schwarzenegger will keep moving California forward.

SCRIPT FOR "COMPARE":
Governor Schwarzenegger is moving California forward. Building schools, strengthening our infrastructure, 600,000 new jobs.

Phil Angelides? He says he's committed to health care, but his position on universal coverage changed three times in just one month.

Angelides says he's an environmentalist, but he's the only candidate cited by the EPA for destroying wetlands.

We know the leader when we see one.


7 posted on 10/09/2006 8:51:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: All; FairOpinion; ThanhPhero

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A Freedom-loving Gov. ARNOLD at his very best (Photo Essay)

http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/photos/3165


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8 posted on 10/09/2006 8:52:21 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: FairOpinion

Arnold's reelection is as sure a thing as there is in this election. It's over before it's over. Just got to make sure big Tom is there at his side to help clean up some of the fiscal abuse.


9 posted on 10/09/2006 9:08:23 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.)
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To: FairOpinion
Right now Arnold is leading but people still need to turn out and actually cast their votes.

Exactly.
A hypothetical lead in the polls means nothing without VOTES.

10 posted on 10/09/2006 10:13:06 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: FairOpinion

Socialism is the Politics of Envy


11 posted on 10/09/2006 10:32:55 PM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: Stallone

Socialists don't believe in making the weak, strong.

Socialists believe in making the strong, weak.


12 posted on 10/09/2006 10:34:46 PM PDT by Stallone (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror.)
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To: FairOpinion
while Angelides believes people need the government to "protect them" and tell them what to do, socialist, Marxist view.

Girlie men!!!

13 posted on 10/09/2006 11:05:18 PM PDT by danamco
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for that.


14 posted on 10/10/2006 8:13:29 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ThanhPhero

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T'is WE who should be thanking YOU and YOURS for your precious Love of Freedom...

...that the rest of us should all be following in this new time of war with OUR own Freedom at stake here at home in a dangerously threatened still Free America.

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678785/posts


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15 posted on 10/10/2006 9:00:21 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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