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Mountaineers see nun shot dead near Everest camp
The Times ^ | October 10, 2006 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 10/09/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by MadIvan

TWO British mountaineers described in graphic detail yesterday how they saw Chinese border guards shoot dead one of a group of Tibetans trying to cross the border into Nepal last month.

Steve Marsh and a British police officer who asked not to be identified were having breakfast at Advance Base Camp beneath Mount Chu Oyu, near Everest. “As we watched, first I heard a shot, then I saw one [guard] stop and there was a second shot and a third,” Mr Marsh told The Times.

“The rearmost of the group fell to the ground. Someone helped them up and they continued for another 30 metres. Then there was another shot and someone fell and they left that person behind in the snow. Through the telescope we could clearly see it was a body.”

The International Campaign for Tibet (ICT) said that the victim was a nun in her mid-twenties from central Tibet who was among 73 refugees trying to flee via Nepal to India where the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan leader, has been based since 1959.

Mr Marsh, 44, could not confirm the victim’s identity because he and his colleague were watching with about 100 other foreign mountaineers from 300 metres away. But, he said, they clearly saw the guards shooting at a group of about 25 Tibetans heading towards the 18,300ft Nangpa La pass — a common route for traders, yak herders and refugees.

The incident is an embarrassment for China, which says it has brought peace and prosperity to Tibet since its troops entered the region in 1950. Chinese guards often detain some of the 3,000 Tibetans who try to cross into Nepal every year, but this was the first time guards had shot dead anyone in front of such a large number of foreigners.

“We were shocked,” said the police officer, who wants to return to Tibet. “You expect to encounter death on the mountain. But you don’t expect to see someone shot in the back when they’re posing no threat to anybody.”

The guards ran past the body as they pursued the group then returned to inspect it but did not remove it until 30 hours later, he said.

Within an hour of the shooting about 30 Chinese guards entered the Advance Base Camp and shortly afterwards led 15 Tibetan children through it, he said. “The kids looked scared, but other than that healthy,” he said. There was no immediate comment from the Chinese Government. A third climber said that the Chinese Embassy in Kathmandu had contacted his group for information.

The ICT said that 43 of the refugees had made it over the border, but the whereabouts of the other 30 was not clear. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees said it had sent a representative to escort the 43 to Kathmandu. Under an informal agreement with Nepal, Tibetan refugees are granted safe passage through the country to India. However, Nepalese police have handed some refugees back to China.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; friendsofbill; india; nun; tibet; walmartsfriend
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China has some explaining to do.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 10/09/2006 4:39:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: odds; DCPatriot; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 10/09/2006 4:40:10 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

china. Most favored nation trading status to a bunch of murderous thugs.


3 posted on 10/09/2006 4:47:29 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MadIvan
This is only the tip of the iceberg.

freetibet.org

4 posted on 10/09/2006 4:49:34 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: MadIvan
"No one died at Tianamen Square..."

Repeat until you get your mind right.

L

5 posted on 10/09/2006 4:51:10 PM PDT by Lurker (islam is not a religion. It's the new face of Fascism in our time. We ignore it at our peril.)
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To: MadIvan

Buddhist nun.

Why is Chinese occupation of Tibet so gentle and beneficial and Israeli "occupation" of Palestinians so brutal and oppressive?

Oh, because Tibetan Buddhists aren't blowing themselves up on buses and in pizza parlors.


6 posted on 10/09/2006 4:53:19 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87 (& have Detroit Tigers in mind!))
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To: MadIvan
Permanent Most Favored Nation status, thanks congress.
7 posted on 10/09/2006 4:53:42 PM PDT by null and void ("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
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To: lesser_satan
Oops, bad link. Let's try that again.

freetibet.org

8 posted on 10/09/2006 4:53:48 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: lesser_satan

Where are all the Wal-Mart lovers?


9 posted on 10/09/2006 4:55:30 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87 (& have Detroit Tigers in mind!))
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To: MadIvan

Wouldn't it be a dream come true to see the nasty Chicoms and islamonazis mix it up? Put it on pay-per-view. Blockbuster. Yellow peril vs the sand fleas. Whoo!


10 posted on 10/09/2006 4:57:03 PM PDT by petertare (!)
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To: Alouette

You're one of the smarter people on FR, so I trust your description of China's imperialist, genocidal campaign against Tibet was sarcasm.


11 posted on 10/09/2006 5:00:05 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Alouette

Must be a big smiley-face Rollback sale (or whatever the hell they call them) going on.


12 posted on 10/09/2006 5:04:10 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: MadIvan

They should have been stopped when they invaded Tibet decades ago.


13 posted on 10/09/2006 5:07:30 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: lesser_satan
I trust your description of China's imperialist, genocidal campaign against Tibet was sarcasm.

Maybe I should go over to DU and ask that question. And they would take the time to carefully explain to me why the Chinese occupation of Tibet is more gentle and beneficial than the Israeli occupation of the Palestinians.

Or probably they would just call me a f***ing nazi Zionist.

14 posted on 10/09/2006 5:14:11 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87 (& have Detroit Tigers in mind!))
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To: proudofthesouth

I know. It's one of the most under-reported crimes-against-humanity in history. Makes my blood boil and makes me want to bitch-slap every chi-comm apologist silly.


15 posted on 10/09/2006 5:14:51 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Alouette

Sorry, I should have known better! >8^)>~


16 posted on 10/09/2006 5:18:33 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Alouette

I don't get to Wal-Mart too often because they are not near me. However, almost everything I buy at Wal-Mart is made in USA. Mobil-1, Remington ammo, batteries, food. I did buy some candied ginger from the Phillipines recently, 1/10th cost of a tourist store near my home. The bananas are also imported and are not picked by illegal immigrants in the US as reported by Geraldo whats his name.

The Chinese people are wonderful. I hope and pray some day their government joins civilized society.


17 posted on 10/09/2006 5:20:10 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Alouette
Where are all the Wal-Mart lovers?

Don't get too smug. Next article of clothing, pair of shoes, sporting goods, electronics or hardware, ..., you try to buy, check the tag showing the country of manufacture. It's hard to avoid Chinese products.

18 posted on 10/09/2006 5:21:46 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting
It's hard, but I try like hell to buy goods made in free countries. I do occasianally shop at WallyWorld, but I'm not some W-M cheerleader having orgasms over how Sam Walton belongs on Mt. Rushmore.

BTW, the last two items I bought at W-M (a Shop-Vac and a battery for my boat) were made in the USA.

19 posted on 10/09/2006 5:30:04 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Cold Heart
AND, a lot of "American Made" goods are produced in the Marianas Islands, by Chinese "guest workers" (i.e., slaves).

All support for China does is oppress Tibet, take American jobs and create more Mexican and Latin American illegal aliens, who could -- as our neighbors and NAFTA/CAFTA partners, manufacture the cheap stuff we buy in their own countries competitively if it wasn't for China's "most favored nation" status.

20 posted on 10/09/2006 6:08:46 PM PDT by rpgdfmx
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