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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Like I said, choke the regime to death. Make it so that things carrying on the way they are will lead to the country collapsing due to starvation. Either they will die, or the people or army will rise up in rebellion.

Regards, Ivan

209 posted on 10/09/2006 7:17:25 AM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Dennis Ross on Fox is talking about how Iran is watching this closely. Talk only could be interpreted as a "green light" for their nuclear program.


219 posted on 10/09/2006 7:19:32 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: MadIvan
Like I said, choke the regime to death.

Aree you counting on the Chinese to go along with this?

221 posted on 10/09/2006 7:19:45 AM PDT by Doofer
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To: MadIvan

Starving people can't rebel, and from what I hear, the Noko military isn't in a mood to rebel; they're well-fed just just a crazy as Li'll Kim.


224 posted on 10/09/2006 7:20:51 AM PDT by BCrago66
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To: MadIvan


That's how a siege works.


230 posted on 10/09/2006 7:22:37 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MadIvan

That's a "movie" plot that sounds great. In reality, should we not ask the proverbial question: "Do the North Korean people truly have the will to overthrow an oppressive regime". If not, I'm not conviced sanctions will work. Besides, sanctions never worked for Iraq.


236 posted on 10/09/2006 7:24:29 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: MadIvan
will lead to the country collapsing due to starvation.

I thought the people of North Korea were already near starvation -- as opposed to the elites and the military, of course.

255 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:06 AM PDT by maryz
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To: MadIvan

I've thought of that too, but starving, unarmed people can't well overthrow a government. I wonder if there are enough North Koreans in exile in SK or elsewhere willing to take the plunge to get this started.


256 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: MadIvan
Like I said, choke the regime to death. Make it so that things carrying on the way they are will lead to the country collapsing due to starvation. Either they will die, or the people or army will rise up in rebellion.

That's easy for us to say. We don't have to worry about the threat of a collapsing, nuclear armed police state across the border. The South Koreans won't let it happen.

Besides, many South Koreans are secretly proud that the Korean people are now a nuclear power. Don't underestimate the unification mindset of the Koreans, or their ability to rationalize away the threat.

260 posted on 10/09/2006 7:29:48 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: MadIvan

Seems to me it'd more humane to simply nuke them than to starve the people to death!

I say let Japan go to war on this one and US backs them in every way we can.


279 posted on 10/09/2006 7:33:07 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: MadIvan
I generally agree. Don't make any fanfare, just cut off the fuel and supplies. We don't even have to announce sanctions. Just end the food aid. We will see if Kim is willing to get on the world stage and beg for food and fuel. The linchpin to such a strategy would be China and Russia. If there were no declared sanctions, they may go along with some sort of back room deal. Kim would either have to declare war unilaterally or buckle under diplomatically.

That or be the last North Korean to starve to death.
290 posted on 10/09/2006 7:38:01 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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