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Evangelicals Blame Foley, Not Republican Party
NY Times ^ | October 9, 2006 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 10/09/2006 3:41:35 AM PDT by Pharmboy


Gary C. Knapp for The New York Times
“That is the problem we have in society. Nobody polices anybody. Everybody has a ‘right’ to do whatever.”
DAVID THOMAS, Father, Norfolk, Va.

VIRGINIA BEACH, Oct. 7 — As word of Representative Mark Foley’s sexually explicit e-mail messages to former pages spread last week, Republican strategists worried — and Democrats hoped — that the sordid nature of the scandal would discourage conservative Christians from going to the polls.

But in dozens of interviews here in southeastern Virginia, a conservative Christian stronghold that is a battleground in races for the House and Senate, many said the episode only reinforced their reasons to vote for their two Republican incumbents in neck-and-neck re-election fights, Representative Thelma Drake and Senator George Allen.

“This is Foley’s lifestyle,” said Ron Gwaltney, a home builder, as he waited with his family outside a Christian rock concert last Thursday in Norfolk. “He tried to keep it quiet from his family and his voters. He is responsible for what he did. He is paying a price for what he did. I am not sure how much farther it needs to go.”

The Democratic Party is “the party that is tolerant of, maybe more so than Republicans, that lifestyle,” Mr. Gwaltney said, referring to homosexuality.

Most of the evangelical Christians interviewed said that so far they saw Mr. Foley’s behavior as a matter of personal morality, not institutional dysfunction.

All said the question of broader responsibility had quickly devolved into a storm of partisan charges and countercharges. And all insisted the episode would have little impact on their intentions to vote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: evangelicals; foley; hastert
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To: Pharmboy
I asked my non-political girl what she thought was more important...NK detonating a nuclear bomb or a Congressman writing dirty emails to a page. She said the bomb. I said Guess what they're talking about on the news?

She said a Congressman sending a dirty email isn't news.

41 posted on 10/09/2006 5:35:11 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: peyton randolph

Barney Frank sure has been QUIET!!!!!


42 posted on 10/09/2006 5:53:42 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: ConservativeGreek

The Foley dust-up has made me so angry that there is no way I would miss voting against every dimocrat on the ticket. I might have considered some local dims, but now....no way.


43 posted on 10/09/2006 6:05:02 AM PDT by WVNan
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To: xtinct
I regularly call the Republicans the Stupid Party with good reason, but when it comes to dealing with evangelicals, the RATS have their own wing in the Stupid Party Hall of Fame.

Republicans:
Foley got kicked out almost immediately when his news hit. Same with Bob Livingstone and Bob Packwood. Henry Hyde took an immense pounding for his.
RATS:
Gerry Studds censured, but gets three standing ovations from the same people censuring him and gets not only re-elected, but a chairmanship. Barney Frank still getting re-elected, still appearing on national programs. Jesse Jackson still the major black leader, still making convention speeches. Bill Clinton, the titular head of the party and resident rock star.

Which party do the Donks think people who believe in morals will support, the one that kicks out the wrongdoers or the one that celebrates them?

44 posted on 10/09/2006 6:34:00 AM PDT by Dahoser (God bless our troops and at home defenders.)
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To: Pharmboy

The only thing the Foley scandal did for me is to make me more determined to get out and vote conservative.


45 posted on 10/09/2006 6:38:40 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: backhoe

Right. And I hear the Democrats are calling for a Investigation of Karl Rove. Apparently they have pictures of Rove sitting next to Lee Harvey Oswald on the Grassy Knoll.


46 posted on 10/09/2006 6:41:12 AM PDT by Welike ike
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To: mainepatsfan

Right on the head Maine. And they tried in 2004 to suppress Christian vote when Kerry outed Mary Cheney in the debates. BackFire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


47 posted on 10/09/2006 6:44:11 AM PDT by Welike ike
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To: dawn53

That's what I've been telling my Dem compadres. They support gay marriage and if it becomes legal in this country, men like Foley will be able to legally marry 16 year olds. They don't quite know how to respond to that one.


48 posted on 10/09/2006 6:45:06 AM PDT by ShandaLear (So there!)
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To: Pharmboy

The Democrats have realized that there is just enough time before the 2006 that this could backfire on them. Some of the sick RATS are already trying to lay low and keep the MSM off their backs.


49 posted on 10/09/2006 7:13:20 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Pharmboy
Told ya, so, NYT's.

I'm a member of the so called "Christian Right". Granted since I've become more conservative overall on a variety of issues certain issues like abortion and marriage and prayer now jockey for position among WOT and other issues, but character remains my number one issue and barring the President doing something stupid like pocket VETO of the fence, this stunt only made me decide to vote Republican which I had NOT intended to do.

Liberals do NOT understand Christians and this stunt was as despicable and condecending as anything you've done in recent years.

Where liberals tend to think of collective responsibility, conservative Christians focus on personal morality. “The conservative Christian audience or base has this acute moral lens through which they look at this, and it is very personal,” Mr. Dunn said. “This is Foley’s personal sin."

Apparently the NYT's needed to have someone explain to them that Christians don't have a Marxist view of the world.

50 posted on 10/09/2006 8:20:34 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: dubie

Its the end of Foley, not the GOP.


51 posted on 10/09/2006 8:22:39 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: Pharmboy
I bet this story will resurface when foley gets out of rehab. Is he expected out of rehap just days before the election? For now, the Rove planned North Korea nuke test will be the front pages for now...
52 posted on 10/09/2006 8:39:48 AM PDT by dubie
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To: WVNan

dust-up has made me so angry

I am hearing this everywhere I go.
Hope its enough.
The MSM is trying to push the moderate independents away. These are the ones that push Republicans over the top.


53 posted on 10/09/2006 8:48:57 AM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: mariabush

"True story the dems in Shelby county(largest county in Tenn. and mostly Democrat) are afraid of lighting"

As well they should be, lol.


54 posted on 10/09/2006 8:56:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dubie

The GOP needs to now for 30 days campaign as they should have for the whole year. The WOT, Islamofascism, permanent tax cuts, border security and the defeatist Dems in foreign policy.


55 posted on 10/09/2006 11:33:45 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: dubie

The GOP needs to now for 30 days campaign as they should have for the whole year. The WOT, Islamofascism, permanent tax cuts, border security and the defeatist Dems in foreign policy.


56 posted on 10/09/2006 11:34:11 AM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: RedRover

Liberals don't know or understand Christians
Ditto


57 posted on 10/09/2006 12:01:07 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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