Posted on 10/08/2006 10:00:47 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
Chuck Muth has described the experiences now commonplace in our daily lives.
I can safely -- and very sadly -- predict that the abuses will continue and grow, our "safety" will NOT be enhanced (I don't think it was ever really believed by those in power that it would be) and the America -- the IDEA, NOT the PLACE-- in which many of us grew up will wither and die.
And in the words of men far more learned and wiser than I, it will not have been murdered: It will have died by suicide.
"...the natural tendency of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield...let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." Thomas Jefferson
"...the idea of liberty must grow weak in the hearts of men before it can be killed at the hands of tyrants." T.Jefferson
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt The Younger in the House of Commons, 18 Nov. 1783
“Those who would trade their freedom for a little security deserve neither freedom nor security.” Ben Franklin
"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; if it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it."— Judge Learned Hand, 1944.
None of these people quoted here had any experience in dealing with Islam.
My sense is that most Libertarians appear to be clueless as well, government efficiency not withstanding.
We went through Dulles security and Lindbergh last week with two carry ons and two checked bags and things moved quick, it wasn't a big deal at all. They handled everyone professionally and swiftly. Just put the liquids in your check in bags. It was a five to ten minute process.
Everything we took with us we came home with. It just rides in a different part of the plane.
bump!!
And how does requiring people to use government-approved sandwich bags for their toothpaste in any way relate to dealing with Islam?
As a frequent flyer I've never had a problem. Though I do like those little TVs they have on JetBlue.
I travel to Europe and Asia every 3 months and take dozens of domestic flights a year. I never had a problem with TSA and never personally saw anyone who had a problem with TSA. While it may be a false sense of security, there is a least some security with the TSA. I would never set foot on a commercial airliner today if there was no TSA to screen the passengers. Don't blame TSA for terrorists. That's like blaming the weatherman for the weather. If you have a better solution, then let's hear about it.
Funny how the most vocal complainers are those that fly maybe once every 5 years - or who never set foot on a plane at all, but they think they know what is best for the millions of us who fly every day.
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I've found the smaller airports to be less a hassle - flying out of Westchester airport this weekend was a breeze, and the TSA at security were friendly and chatted with everyone - and compared to the bleak, robotic TSa at SFO, or JFK, a breath of fresh air.
I've compared notes with lots of friends and family, and the number of verboten items gotten through outnumber the items seized or found. Clearly, this method of banning items like liquids and lighters and tweezers is closing the barn door after the horses have escaped, and that the fight against terrorism lies elsewhere - if they are determined, they WILL blow up a plane, and there's not much we can do - if we the public are aware of the items being banned, then it's too late, and undoubtedly the terrorists have moved on to more exciting and un-thought of ways of doing it.
The more I think about it, the more I think the TSA and their edicts and bans are simply public red flags to distract from the other glaring issues, like the borders.
Seemm to remember it was the Democrats who howled about creating DHS etc. So if he doesn't like TSA, what is his alternative suggestion ?
"PC" says we can't possibly profile the passengers themselves which is of course the obvious thing to do so what's the alternative ?
Never heard of the Barbary Pirates, eh?
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My sense of the thing is that they're doing the best they can with the resources available. I can't fault them for that.
Except for a few long lines, I've never had a problem. And the vast majority of TSA employees I've encountered seem dedicated and competent.
And yeah, I agree, smaller airports are better, but often require a longer cab ride to the destination.
Please. Within the context of this article do not try to plead your case that the restrictions on the freedoms of American citizens is necessary for the safety of all. The TSA is the most incompetent bureaucracy ever devised by man.
OK, so when exactly did the Utopia this guy alludes to exist?
The gels and liquid ban is absolutely ridiculous. However, I personally liked it because since passengers could not bring drinks on the plane, the usually did not bring their food to eat also..one of my pet peeves.
Pre-1968 when you could take a gun onto a plane.
And prior to which there weren't any hijackings to speak of.
What a coincidence, eh?
More guns means less crime. On aircraft too.
Off topic, but the DMV far surpasses the TSA for incompetence
Aw darn. There go those "fact" thingies screwing up your reasoned debate.
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