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Foley: The Final Straw
Time ^ | October 7, 2006 | Frank Luntz

Posted on 10/08/2006 5:27:03 PM PDT by quidnunc

Had enough?

America has. Anyone who reads the polls accurately and honestly will acknowledge that the Republican Party is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives, the so-called "People's House." The Democrats maintained control for 40 years. The Republicans, just 12.

What went wrong? Why do Democrats finally appear to be heading toward electoral success and Republicans back into the political wilderness? In a word, fatigue. Americans are tired of the war, tired of watching illegal aliens race across our unguarded borders, tired of high energy costs, tired of wasteful Washington spending, and tired of story after story of political corruption and misbehavior.

As a pollster, my job is to tap the public mood. As a linguist, my efforts are focused on the words of the electorate and how best to communicate a set of priorities and principles. For the past three months, in focus groups literally from coast to coast — and a dozen states in between — I have heard the constant grumblings of Republicans that their party didn't do enough to follow through on their promises and the anger of Democrats who felt the G.O.P. went too far. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

And the language voters now use to describe Congress can only be heard after nasty divorce settlements and in the subways of New York. I've had voters spit on me as they emphasize the "d" in "do nothing" and the "c" in "corrupt."

Who can blame them? The Republican Party of 2006 is a tired, cranky shell of the aggressive, reformist movement that was swept into office in 1994 on a wave of positive change. I knew those Republicans. I worked for them. They were friends of mine. These Republicans are not those Republicans.

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To: quidnunc

When Barney Franks resigns his seat, the Republicans will think about cleaning house.


101 posted on 10/08/2006 6:26:15 PM PDT by Eva
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To: jveritas
Is this guy a pollster or some bitter idiot like Sacarborough, Buchanan and other knee jerk republicans who always forsee unfounded doom and gloom for the Republican Party.

A bitter idiot.

102 posted on 10/08/2006 6:26:35 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: tennmountainman

MORE BACKGROUND ON LUNTZ'S VENDETTA AGAINST GOP

'98 Misstep May Have Cleared Pollster's Dance Card

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/11/AR2006021101083.html


By Chris Cillizza
Sunday, February 12, 2006; Page A05

At House Republicans' annual retreat on Maryland's Eastern Shore late last week, Republican pollster Frank Luntz was on the original schedule to make a presentation -- but he did not.


103 posted on 10/08/2006 6:26:36 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Owen
"The desperation is really apparent on the part of the Dems when they have spent all year posting things like this here to split the base."

Yes.

"The depths of their agony when they do not win will be beyond measure, and as decent Americans we will not be allowed to gloat."

No. I will gloat. I will issue posts laden with Schadenfreude for months on end, just as I did in 2000, in 2002, and in 2004.

"All we can do is to point to their policies and issue a COMMAND."

And that command is -- vote the Hate America First Party out of every elected office, down to the last dog-catching Chechnik.

104 posted on 10/08/2006 6:27:11 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: RFEngineer
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! I haven't laid the blame for anything at conservatives feet.

All that I have said is that all hell will break loose if the Dems are in charge.

I think that you have me mixed up with someone else.
105 posted on 10/08/2006 6:27:29 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: tennmountainman

"Are you afraid that he is not a "true conservative"?
"

It's not just him......the GOP, as a party, is not conservative either


106 posted on 10/08/2006 6:27:59 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Maelstorm
Do you really believe that a Gay congressman is going to make us lose the elections? The Foley case will have zero effect on the elections, and we will retain control of both houses of Congress.
107 posted on 10/08/2006 6:28:32 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: nopardons

EXACTLY!


108 posted on 10/08/2006 6:29:16 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: Verginius Rufus

"Of course no one can propose that--and female pages would still be targets--but I have a hard time believing that the Democrats who are making all the noise really care about the pages"

Expose them all and let their district voters decide if they deserve re-election.
And for heaven sake, get a handle on the high level GOP gay staffers running around making decisions they have no right making by themselves.


109 posted on 10/08/2006 6:29:51 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: thoughtomator

What a fool!


110 posted on 10/08/2006 6:29:56 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: quidnunc
I have some questions about Frank Luntz's sexual orientation as well...
111 posted on 10/08/2006 6:30:00 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: mariabush

"All that I have said is that all hell will break loose if the Dems are in charge"

This is true. apologies if I mistook you for someone else, or misinterpreted your post.


112 posted on 10/08/2006 6:30:23 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Fee
GOP loss will be good because I predict the Dem cure will be worst as taxcut is rolled back, border fence funding dismantled, assault rifle ban reinstated with additions and haggling with GWB which will embolden the enemy to attack free Iraq and US troops.

By this logic, you are saying that you think it will be a good thing if our troops die.

113 posted on 10/08/2006 6:31:26 PM PDT by webheart
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To: jimbo123

Jimbo, you still have not answered my question.
Are u for open borders and out of control spending?


114 posted on 10/08/2006 6:31:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: mware
Whether we like it or not the RINO's did us in. If we had locked down the border and made an attempt to send the illegals back down south of the border things would have been a lot better. We were sold out by traders to the party.
115 posted on 10/08/2006 6:31:55 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: quidnunc

It's entirely possible the GOP has flushed away its reelection chances, but the fact that Frank Luntz says they have actually makes me more confident that they'll win. Here's everything you need to know about Frank Luntz, care of Penn & Teller's show, "Bulls**t" (Warning! Some really bad language scattered throughout, but a must-watch): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW-iPfZbUIY


116 posted on 10/08/2006 6:31:57 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: RFEngineer

Thank you!


117 posted on 10/08/2006 6:32:12 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Fee; Cowboy Bob; nopardons
Fee/cow- you guys are SOOOO wrong... First of all, do you have ANY idea how hard it is to knock off an incumbent especially in the House? It may work this year because the media is four-square behind the Dems...

Second, the MEDIA is still all-powerful, and the newcomers will be in for life.

118 posted on 10/08/2006 6:32:17 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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To: jveritas
Is this guy a pollster or some bitter idiot like Sacarborough, Buchanan and other knee jerk republicans who always forsee unfounded doom and gloom for the Republican Party.

Luntz is bitter because the GOP House Leadership disinvited him from their annual retreat earlier this year because of the consulting work he has been doing for Harry Reid and other democrats.

Luntz should disclose that he is currently working for Harry Reid and that no Republicans have him on their payroll for this election.
119 posted on 10/08/2006 6:33:05 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mariabush

Who's the greater fool, me, or a GOP leadership that has given conservatives no one to vote for?


120 posted on 10/08/2006 6:33:34 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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