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Navy Lawyer in Terror Case Not Promoted
AP ^ | 10/8/6

Posted on 10/08/2006 4:57:50 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: jude24
Illegal. "Take no prisoners" is a violation of the Geneva protections. If they surrender, they are entitled to enemy combatant protections.

Not if we get 2 loyal Americans as the next justices to the SC

Because I believe that wars must be fought not only for just causes, but with just means? If I'm unwelcome in the party in control of my country because of that belief, well, that is frightening.

I didn't say that. I said if Hamdan aided Bin Laden, and that it is proven in a court of law that Hamdan aided Bin Laden, then he should be punished.

You did not say anything. You wrote that if he did it, and if it is proven in a court of law, and the assumption that you have any moral or intellectual integrity is a stretch, but let's assume you apply the same standard to Bin Laden and the rest of alQaeda as you do to Hamdan. A certain fat treasonous defense attorney comes to mind.

Because of a belief in "just war"?

You are corrupt because you side with the enemy.

61 posted on 10/08/2006 7:41:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: BamaDi

Th only thing "fishy" is the one sided story coming out about this poor victim of the evil military.

I don't think we know the entire story, so if we were Dems we would begin the conspiracy theories. But since we aren't how about waiting or looking for the ENTIRE story before jumping to conclusions as to why he wasn't promoted?


63 posted on 10/08/2006 7:44:14 PM PDT by submarinerswife
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To: george76; devolve

Yes, that video is terrible to watch.


64 posted on 10/08/2006 7:45:22 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: jude24
Go to hell.

That is your destination, and the destination of all alQaeda supporters.

65 posted on 10/08/2006 7:45:42 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: af_vet_1981
That is your destination, and the destination of all alQaeda supporters.

See, because you think only in false dichotomies, you assume that anyone who disagrees with you supports Al Queda.

66 posted on 10/08/2006 7:47:16 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: potlatch

Sorry that you had to watch the video.

We have a problem here with enemy identification.


67 posted on 10/08/2006 7:47:38 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jude24
See, because you think only in false dichotomies, you assume that anyone who disagrees with you supports Al Queda.

No, it is just you here on this thread, in post after post, taking the side of alQaeda.

68 posted on 10/08/2006 7:49:26 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: jude24
Article III of the Third Geneva Convention applies even to "illegal" combatants.

Only as "individuals", not prisoners of war, and then only minimal protections. Individuals may be sentenced by a "regularly constituted court", and that is interpreted by the executive as military tribunals and treaty law is superior to the Constitution and courts.

69 posted on 10/08/2006 7:50:43 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: submarinerswife

"poor victim" of the military - I don't think so....I worked for the AF JAG for two years and believe me, if this bozo wasn't promoted it was because he didn't give a rat about the US military....


70 posted on 10/08/2006 7:51:32 PM PDT by BamaDi (Shula's gorgeous but looks don't make a good coach!)
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To: af_vet_1981
No, it is just you here on this thread, in post after post, taking the side of alQaeda.

Saying that fighting justly is what makes us morally superior to them is not "taking the side of Al Queda." Part of that includes treating our enemies with human decency and respect when they surrender; another part of that is not trying to weasel our way out of treaties.

71 posted on 10/08/2006 7:51:33 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet; Marine_Uncle; Lancey Howard; mountn man; Baynative

72 posted on 10/08/2006 7:52:15 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: af_vet_1981; jude24; FARS

It's not the first time for jude.

BTW, that video is nothing compared to FARS homepage. Watch at your own risk.


73 posted on 10/08/2006 7:52:54 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Navy Patriot
Individuals may be sentenced by a "regularly constituted court", and that is interpreted by the executive as military tribunals and treaty law is superior to the Constitution and courts.

There we go. Those are still minimal protections that were being violated in Guantanamo Bay. (That provision requires such legal mechdanisms as are required in civilized jurisprudence. Due Process is certainly included in that list.)

74 posted on 10/08/2006 7:53:21 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: freema
It's not the first time for jude.

That's because I have consistently argued for the just war theory, even when it was no longer popular amongst conservatives.

75 posted on 10/08/2006 7:54:51 PM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: freema

Do you remember that fat treasonous lawyer Lynne Stewart ?


76 posted on 10/08/2006 7:55:56 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: george76; devolve

If everyone would watch those they might better understand who the enemy is!!


77 posted on 10/08/2006 7:56:55 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: jude24
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78 posted on 10/08/2006 8:00:27 PM PDT by InkStone
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To: jude24
That provision requires such legal mechanisms as are required in civilized jurisprudence. Due Process is certainly included in that list.

And they will get civilized due process as determined by the military tribunal, authorized by treaty law subject to the discretion of the executive as treaty law is not subject to civilian court review.

79 posted on 10/08/2006 8:01:04 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: potlatch; Chgogal; BIGLOOK; neverdem; sergeantdave; Calpernia; Coop; Valin
 

Click on her picture for her video.


80 posted on 10/08/2006 8:01:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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