Moscow Protest

Euronews ^ | 10/8/06 | Euronews

[MarMema]

Russia's big round-up of Georgians in the capital brought protesters out onto the streets on Sunday.

Near Pushkin's statue in Moscow city centre, some wore yellow stars with "I am a Georgian" written on them.

Banners like "Persecuting people because they are Georgian is Russia's shame", and "No to state fascism" could be seen as several hundred people expressed their disgust at the increasingly nasty diplomatic war that has broken out between the two countries.

Liberal politician Vladimir Ryzhkov said:

"Georgian authorities provoked Russia with the arrest of four military officers. It demanded an answer. But the measures with which the Russian authorities decided to answer were clearly inadequate and are, in fact, harming Russia itself."

Moscow has become uncomfortable even for intellectuals with Georgian-sounding names, with visits from the tax police and other officials, sometime at the homes of the famous.

Air traffic between Russia and Georgia is now exclusively in Russian Emergencies ministry planes, taking Georgian deportees back to Tiblisi and loading up with Russians returning home.

[MarMema]

[Joe Boucher]

Get them all on film then make them all disappear.

[GarySpFc]

I have always tried to be fair and looked at the evidence on both sides when examining Russia's actions. I find it totally wrong to accuse others based on speculation and at best circumstantial evidence. That said, in looking at the evidence in her actions against Georgia I have to admit I think Russia has absolutely lost her mind. Now they're engaging in a pogroms against Georgians in Moscow. Georgia was wrong for holding the GRU guys - they should have kicked them out of the country. Russia's overreaction shows they have no real control over anything and just shows her weakness.

[spanalot]

"Russia's overreaction shows they have no real control over anything and just shows her weakness."

Nice try , Gary - but you won't find anybody shedding tears for your "Mother Russia".

And you talk about weakness? Wait till oil gets back down to the $30's again.

[MarMema]

ping

[MarMema]

I'll meet you. If it wasn't for Brzezinski and his stupid
great game, perhaps Russia wouldn't be so paranoid.

[MarMema]

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[M. Espinola]

"I have always tried to be fair and looked at the evidence on both sides when examining Russia's actions. I find it totally wrong to accuse others based on speculation and at best circumstantial evidence."

What a bloody joke coming from you. You pro-Putin record speaks despicably loud and regrettably clear for an 'American'.

"Georgia was wrong for holding the GRU guys.."

"GRU guys.." (KGB thugs) The Georgian government should have forced Putin's KGB spies to sing like birds, don't you agree?

Demonstrators protest outside the Russian Embassy to demand a full investigation into Saturday's killing of Anna Politkovskaya, a fierce critic of Russia's policy in Chechnya, in Helsinki Sunday, Oct. 8, 2006. The shooting death of a Russian investigative journalist sparked anger and shock worldwide Sunday, with widespread calls for Russian authorities to track down and prosecute the killers amid new doubts about press freedoms under President Vladimir Putin. (AP Photo/LEHTIKUVA, Marja Airio)

Is your Kremlin hero Putin going to have all these people slaughtered as well?

A video grab from the surveillance camera fixed outside Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya's apartment block, released October 8th, 2006, shows the alleged suspect entering and leaving her house in Moscow. Politkovskaya, an outspoken critic of President Valdimir Putin, was shot dead on Saturday at her apartment block in central Moscow, police said.

A video grab from the surveillance camera fixed outside Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya's apartment block, released October 8th, 2006, shows the alleged suspect entering and leaving her house in Moscow. Politkovskaya, an outspoken critic of President Valdimir Putin, was shot dead on Saturday at her apartment block in central Moscow, police said.

[RusIvan]

"GRU guys.." (KGB thugs) The Georgian government should have forced Putin's KGB spies to sing like birds, don't you agree? ==

It is as they say in Russia the "ill conscience" stream.

Those "spies" are only the military officers. The capture of military officers of any army is the war act isn't it?

Georgia was wise to let them go or it would be bombing of Tbilisi today. Russia as any other state won't tolerate the hostage taking of her military officers.

[GarySpFc]

"GRU guys.." (KGB thugs) The Georgian government should have forced Putin's KGB spies to sing like birds, don't you agree?

Firstly, this may be a little difficult for your feeble mind to grasp, but GRU are not KGB. They are military intelligence officers. At the time of the GRU's creation, Lenin ordered the Cheka (predecessor of the KGB) not to interfere with the GRU's operations. The rivalry between the GRU and KGB was even more intense than the rivalry between the FBI and CIA.

Secondly, your suggestion that the Georgian government should have forced the the GRU to sing like birds proves you are irresponsible. Russia would have gone to war with Georgia if her officers were tortured.

Is your Kremlin hero Putin going to have all these people slaughtered as well?

Once again this statement proves your "golytsinite" KGB conspiracy theory is all that occupies your feeble mind. Anna Polikovskaya had many enemies who had threatened to kill her, and in Russia it would be easy to hire someone to murder her. If I were to accept speculation as evidence I would pick Ramzam Kadyrov - his private army was coming under fire from her and Chechen's think nothing of killing someone over any disagreements.

[Sergei_DV]

People in Russia were idignant for long time by Georgian criminals and by corrupt authorities closing eyes on they activity. And now all these bribe-takers show they extraordinary activity. Say to fool pray to God, and he will smash his forehead.

[GarySpFc]

Sergei,

I look for one of these Georgian mobsters to hit a high ranking politician shortly as a backlash.

[GarySpFc]

Do you think the Russian FSB would allow these pictures of the murderer to be published if they were omnipotent and omnipresent?

[spanalot]

Yes Gary - we know - it was those Chechen Ukrainians that are half jewish and half polish.

Russians would never do anything like killing a person or 100 million.

[GarySpFc]

Spanalot, it is a psychological fact that lying causes one to depart from reality.

A Sobering Effect of Politkovskaya’s Killing

Anna Polikovskaya's newspaper was Novaya Gazeta.

Novaya Gazeta said on its Web site it believed her murder was either revenge by Kadyrov or an attempt to discredit him.

In a recent radio interview, Politkovskaya said she was a witness in a criminal case against Kadyrov concerning his alleged involvement in the kidnapping of two civilians — an ethnic Russian and a Chechen — who were tortured and killed.

Novaya Gazeta said Sunday its reporters would conduct their own investigation, and it called Politkovskaya’s slaying revenge for her coverage of Chechnya, which included the story planned for Monday. “We never got the article, but she had evidence about these (abducted) people and there were photographs,” Deputy Editor Vitaly Yerushensky, told Ekho Moskvy radio.

[spanalot]

Yes - the Russian thugs are tightening the noose on everyone.

Here is a poor fellow who is being prosecuted for criticizing Russians on the internet.

http://www2.pravda.com.ua/en/news/2006/10/7/6519.htm

[MarMema]

Hopefully they won't submit to this new wave of fascism.

[M. Espinola]

"Those "spies" are only the military officers.."

Peddle your pro-Russian disinformation somewhere else.

The Russian Army does not belong in Georgia.

Putin needs to start confronting reality, the era of Kremlin dictators terrorizing independent nations into conforming to Moscow every wish is over.

Those nations under attack from Moscow shall continue fighting Putin's vicious attempts to force his version of a Russian empire dictated by him and his goons.

How many more reporters will Putin order murdered next week, next month?

[M. Espinola]

With Putin under the global media spotlight for his Nazi like repression based on race, along with another very prominent investigative Russian reporter murdered in cold blood, the question remains why you, an American, is still ardently pushing Putin's public relations on an American based, conservative forum?

Are you on Putin's payroll spin-master?

How many more will be ordered murdered by Col Putin?

[MarMema]

The capture of military officers of any army is the war act isn't it?

Or a response to spying and intended sabotage.