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Genetic evidence for punctuated equilibrium
The Scientist ^ | 06 October 2006 | Melissa Lee Phillips

Posted on 10/07/2006 9:08:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: trashcanbred

Is evolution real?


101 posted on 10/07/2006 1:43:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier fighting in the WOT)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Purveyors of Unknowledge" placemarker
102 posted on 10/07/2006 1:47:31 PM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: SoldierDad

That was not a claim. It was an example of how the math works. I thought it would be obvious.


103 posted on 10/07/2006 1:49:50 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

Good luck. I abandoned the thread when it got stupid.


104 posted on 10/07/2006 1:51:20 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: PatrickHenry

LOLL!

Hey, Patrick, may I use the troll thing below? I'm gonna use it on Usenet to look important, you know, as if it came from my feeble mind. It is well written.

Thank you very much.

If you prefer I will give credit to the author, that is, you, PatrickHenry.

I can't stop laughing about it becuase is so true of trolls and very fitting. I know. I can attest to it.

"Are you inadequate online? Are you feeling inferior because you have no education? Are you so stupid that no one will respond to you? When they do respond, is it only point out your errors in spelling, grammar and logic? Would you like to become the life of the thread? Then be a troll! Yes, now you too can be a real internet troll!
Trolls always have a good time, and their posts get lots of responses. As a troll, you're sure to be the center of attention. Other trolls will praise your posts. Never again will your comments be ignored, merely because you don't know what you're talking about. And as a troll, you'll enjoy the power you have to ruin any thread just by showing up and trolling. Oh, the fun!

"Trolling is easy. It's simple. And the beauty of it is ... you don't have to know anything! Here's a complete catalog of an evolution troll's intellectual inventory. Just print out this toolkit, and use one or two items at random every time you post. Don't worry if someone refutes you. Just repeat your earlier post. Then keep on trolling! They'll go crazy! Guaranteed!


105 posted on 10/07/2006 1:58:15 PM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: stultorum

He's a good writer too.

Must have a college education. I never went to college :).


106 posted on 10/07/2006 1:59:29 PM PDT by stultorum (dont hire illegal aliens)
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To: SoldierDad
Same reason why non-scientific conjecture about evolution is allowed to be taught in schools.

To what, specific, non-scientific conjecture regarding evolution do you refer?
107 posted on 10/07/2006 2:00:46 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: From many - one.
That was not a claim. It was an example of how the math works. I thought it would be obvious.

Ah, a backhanded slap at my "ignorance". So, someone uses a "mathematical model" to claim that 1/1000 elephants are fossilized (although no evidence for this claim has been found), and it is accepted as truth because some mathematician did "the math". Ain't science wonderful.

108 posted on 10/07/2006 2:02:12 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier fighting in the WOT)
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To: Dimensio

Been there; done that.


109 posted on 10/07/2006 2:03:12 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier fighting in the WOT)
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To: RadioAstronomer

I shall follow your wise lead. It's a nice day out and there are none so blind as those who will not see.


110 posted on 10/07/2006 2:03:13 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: SoldierDad

If you are unwilling to substantiate your assertions, then there is no further cause for discussion.


111 posted on 10/07/2006 2:04:19 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio; EternalVigilance

Substantiation of assertions can only be made by evos on this thread. Noone else has anything to add to the discussion as per evos position. This was made clear to me on earlier threads. Thus, you are correct; no further discussion can be had.


112 posted on 10/07/2006 2:07:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier fighting in the WOT)
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To: stultorum; PatrickHenry
"Are you inadequate online? Are you feeling inferior because you have no education? Are you so stupid that no one will respond to you? When they do respond, is it only point out your errors in spelling, grammar and logic? Would you like to become the life of the thread? Then be a troll! Yes, now you too can be a real internet troll! Trolls always have a good time, and their posts get lots of responses. As a troll, you're sure to be the center of attention. Other trolls will praise your posts. Never again will your comments be ignored, merely because you don't know what you're talking about. And as a troll, you'll enjoy the power you have to ruin any thread just by showing up and trolling. Oh, the fun!

"Trolling is easy. It's simple. And the beauty of it is ... you don't have to know anything! Here's a complete catalog of an evolution troll's intellectual inventory. Just print out this toolkit, and use one or two items at random every time you post. Don't worry if someone refutes you. Just repeat your earlier post. Then keep on trolling! They'll go crazy! Guaranteed!"

"Order your Unknowledge Troll Kit today; and we'll throw in a companion manual "Anti-Science for Luddites" as a free bonus. And remember, no edjucashun or intellectual ability is required to be an "Unknowledge Troll -- an obnoxious sense of entitlement to disrupt discussions of people far smarter and better edjukated that you are is all you need! ORDER TODAY, AND BE ALL YOU CAN BE!"

113 posted on 10/07/2006 2:08:57 PM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Ol' Sparky
"Take all this secular, atheistic propaganda to liberal websites and stopped wasting our time here. Become a liberal if you must, just keep such lies off FR."

I think that these threads are good and promote healthy discourse.

Certainly Gould was an apologist for the Theory of Evolution. Nevertheless, right or wrong, the man was brilliant.

By the way, as far as I know FR is a secular site, not a religious one.

114 posted on 10/07/2006 2:09:10 PM PDT by Radix (Due to time constraints, I can for the time being not review my pings.)
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To: trashcanbred
What was the final result? I only saw what it was when I voted.

This was my final post. Eight more votes came in later, but I don't think they would change anything:

The vote total is 5,441. The important votes are from those who have expressed an opinion on the poll question, so I'm ignoring all votes for "undecided" or "pass." Those with an opinion have voted as follows:

Yes (put creationism in science class) 3,063 votes
No (keep creationism out of science class) 1,935 votes
Total votes (excluding "undecided" or "pass") 4,998
Percentage voting "No" is 38.7%

Among freepers alone, that figure is 35.9%
Among lurkers alone, that figure is 41.2%

FR's figures are here.

115 posted on 10/07/2006 2:12:08 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: RoadTest
Boy! Did you read that wrong. Go back and read Genesis again, more carefully this time.

[Gen 2:7] And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

[Gen 2:21-22] And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

Nope. I think he read it right.
116 posted on 10/07/2006 2:19:56 PM PDT by Junior (Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
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To: SoldierDad
Is evolution real?

Yes. There is a large amount of proof for both Micro and Macro evolution. Do you want a link, want me to cite evidence, or would I just be wasting my time because you won't believe it regardless?

117 posted on 10/07/2006 2:21:44 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: PatrickHenry

AND YOU CAN'T MAKE ME SEE ANY ANY OF IT!

118 posted on 10/07/2006 2:21:48 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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To: stultorum
If you prefer I will give credit to the author, that is, you, PatrickHenry.

That's the proper thing to do.

119 posted on 10/07/2006 2:22:01 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: trashcanbred; PatrickHenry
Because of Santorum's connections to the Discovery Institute and his stance on ID, I have to admit, I am not hoping he wins. Call me a liberal... have me Zotted... I don't care. I really cannot wish for him to win nor any Republican who is for pushing ID into public schools.

[I haven't been following Santorum closely; these remarks are for any candidate who thinks non-science belongs in science class]

Either he believes the DI crap, and is not only scientifically uneducated, but thinks his whims trump actual science, or he knows better and is pandering. In neither case is such a person fit for office.

120 posted on 10/07/2006 2:22:13 PM PDT by Virginia-American (Don't bring a comic book to an encyclopedia fight)
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