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To: NYer
If they ain't too busy compelling women to using oatmeal boxes for hair curlers, and harping on passages that are largely used for relegating women to the back of the ecclesiastical bus, then they might actually get taken serious by intelligent people some day.

Don't count on that happening anytime soon.

Many are doctrinally, rather scripturally correct, but in other ways, there is little distinction b/n them and the Taliban.

That is, they read the words, but do not heed them.

Repeating words is not exactly the same as understanding them and practicing what they mean.

33 posted on 10/07/2006 5:27:12 PM PDT by Radix (Due to time constraints, I can for the time being not review my pings.)
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To: Radix

Actually, the IQ slam is wholesale false.

A LOT of research has proven that.

A retraction would be in order.


62 posted on 10/07/2006 8:11:47 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Radix

I have been a member of several Methodist, Baptist, and Presbyterian churches.

Currently, I am a member of a Vineyard church which I didn't know when I started going is considered pentecostal.

I grew up in Texas, and moved to Northern California after college about 20 years ago. I had a hard time finding a church in Northern California. Some of the churches were full of old people, and I did not get anything from those churches spiritually. Then there were the churches that seemed very liberal.

Some of my neighbors that I was close to were going to my current church. I visited. In the five years that I have been there, there have been several sermons on gifts of the spirits to explain what they are. I personally have never heard anyone speaking in tongues at our church. People talk about God sending them passages to read to the church, or some say they have had a dream about something that they think is a message from God. We've prayed for people to be healed, and I only know of one person who may have been healed after being prayed over in a sermon. She is a woman I have known for a long time, and has been dealing with a back problem. She only told a few of us that she thought she had been healed.

The worship is definitely more contemporary. I would prefer a more traditional worship, but my husband likes the contemporary worship.

What I like most about the sermons is that our minister goes over Bible passages and then he explains things that he knows about them (what the words mean in Greek, historical references, etc). Our pastor also likes to tell us what he is preaching about so that we can e-mail him questions beforehand.

Most of the people in my church our highly educated. We're in Silicon Valley, so we have a lot of engineers like my husband and I. Some of the women work, and some stay at home (like me).

Anyway, I don't think we're too extreme. We do place a high value on prayer, fellowship, and reading the Bible.

I think there are different churches for different types of people. As long as they are following the Bible, then I think they are okay. Of course, people can interpret the Bible differently, and I would hate to make too many judgements about that.

Just on the side. My church is trying figure out if we are staying with the Vineyard movement. We disagree with their stance on an issue about women pastors.


79 posted on 10/07/2006 8:29:12 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Radix

What you see on television does NOT reflect the average pentecostal/charismatic church. Besides, when you judge other christians, you reap judgement upon yourself. And you do NOT want God to judge you or give you what you deserve, do you? Not me! I've already learned THAT lesson.


305 posted on 10/09/2006 7:41:20 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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