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Airbus: First, Blame the Software
Businessweek.com ^
| Oct 5, 2006
| Carol Matlack
Posted on 10/06/2006 8:42:26 AM PDT by phantomworker
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To: phantomworker
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:44:15 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Paleo Conservative; JRios1968
Here's another scathing Airbust article.
"How could the global No. 1 aircraft maker have messed up so badly?"
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:44:29 AM PDT
by
phantomworker
(A life spent in making mistakes is more honorable & more useful than a life spent in doing nothing.)
To: phantomworker
Ah, yes.
The infamous "Babel-ware" strikes again.
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:46:18 AM PDT
by
N. Theknow
((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
To: phantomworker
How could the global No. 1 aircraft maker have messed up so badly?
Huh? What? When did Airbus become #1?
To: phantomworker
Dassault? That dog don't hunt. That is what Boeing uses!
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:48:05 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
To: Psycho_Bunny
When did Airbus become #1? I think it depends on which set of metrics are used (orders or deliveries). Or there might be other metrics.
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:49:34 AM PDT
by
phantomworker
(A life spent in making mistakes is more honorable & more useful than a life spent in doing nothing.)
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To: phantomworker
I feel *
snicker* really bad *
snort* for them...
Bwwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
* gasp *
Bwwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Man, I can't even tell myself that with a strait face...
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:49:45 AM PDT
by
Abathar
(Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
To: TommyDale
Dassault? That dog don't hunt. That is what Boeing uses! Yeah it does. Airbus's conglomeration of different countries using different versions of the same software is root of their problem. Apparently for two installations of CATIA (Dassault) to successfully share designs, the application software and the related configuration tables have to match down to the bit level. I work in the industry and we are constantly fighting this battle. And it looks like Airbus is losing theirs.
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:57:40 AM PDT
by
ladtx
("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
To: Paleo Conservative
Did you see this: "Internet bloggers publish entire transcript of Airbus CEO Christian Streiff's frank speech to employees over A380 delay"?
Streiff's frank speech to employees
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posted on
10/06/2006 8:59:28 AM PDT
by
phantomworker
(A life spent in making mistakes is more honorable & more useful than a life spent in doing nothing.)
To: dfwgator
HA Ha indeed......
The Euroweenies screwed the US over ISO9000 and all those insane quality "assessments"......seems like they hoisted on their own petard......snicker.
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:01:14 AM PDT
by
spokeshave
(The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
To: phantomworker
Now the EU will simply figure a way to levy more fines for billions of dollars against Intel, Microsoft and other American companies. I can hear the French judge asking the prosecutor, "How much do we need to make up for our AirBus loss?"
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:05:33 AM PDT
by
GarySpFc
(Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
To: TommyDale
The software's fine. It's the fact that Airbus doesn't understand IT product lifecycle, version control and compatibility that's killing them on this.
To: antiRepublicrat
My guess is that their IT people are always on vacation.
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:11:40 AM PDT
by
TommyDale
(Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
To: phantomworker
How typical.
The hardware weenies blame the coneheads.
The coneheads blame the hardware.
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:13:30 AM PDT
by
grobdriver
(Let the embeds check the bodies!)
To: ladtx
Why don't they just use CADkey/KeyCreator?...
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:17:30 AM PDT
by
null and void
("It is better to look ahead and prepare than to look back and regret."--Jackie Joyner-Kersee)
To: phantomworker
The 747 was designed by guys with ink-stained pockets using slide rules, and it is still the best. Modern design tools are wonderfully powerful things, but the engineer has to understand what he is doing, or it is GI/GO.
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:24:17 AM PDT
by
gridlock
(The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
To: phantomworker
blame it on the software, not on yugobus' socialist business model.
To: phantomworker
Early this year, when pre-assembled bundles containing hundreds of miles of cabin wiring were delivered from a German factory to the assembly line in France, workers discovered that the bundles, called harnesses, didn't fit properly into the plane. OK ... I can see the software being responsible for creating a mismatch on the design specs.
But really ... NOBODY thought to try one or two for size, before assembling a whole crapload of mismatched bundles? Yet another example of trusting the software over the hardware.
Above all, this is a tremendous failure on the part of their Systems Engineering folks. And SE failures always seem to boil down to this one, simple thing: they forgot to answer, and probably failed even to ask, the most basic question of all: "What's the worst that can happen?"
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posted on
10/06/2006 9:27:25 AM PDT
by
r9etb
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