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Was Plame Covert? A Review of Isikoff and Corn's Hubris
Original FReeper research | 10/5/2006 | Fedora

Posted on 10/05/2006 9:46:41 PM PDT by Fedora

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To: Fedora
Your assessment on the reasons for OC in foreign assignments is entirely correct. If you were an OC, the odds that you would be a NOC are incredibly low and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER in the same operational area that you were operating as a US diplomat or employee. The enemies would simply not believe your NOC status knowing that you just left the employ of Uncle Sam. It strains credulity that people are talking about her this way.

The single biggest reason I would never suspect that Plame was NOC was that she married a diplomat. If you were undercover, your marriage to a high profile US ambassador would be the end of your career since you wouldn't be able to operate anymore effectively. Hiding in plain sight is one thing but showing up at White House functions on C-SPAN with your diplomat husband and hitting the Georgetown cocktail circuit are not ways that covert operators practice tradecraft.

And her story about how she told Wilson that she was CIA after their second date is straight out of a movie. How would somebody who withstood the training you would have to endure at the Farm not be able to withstand the overwhelming urge to blow your cover to a guy because you want to f&ck him???!!? And why would you have not called up the agency and ran his name to see if he had any questionable contacts before you undressed yourself (professionally speaking)???? Again, it just doesn't make any sense. Plame acted like any woman would have. Any woman who was not protecting her identity for a living.

21 posted on 10/05/2006 11:00:06 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: Balata

Is the Pope Catholic?


22 posted on 10/05/2006 11:01:39 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: Fedora; A Citizen Reporter; AliVeritas; alnick; AmeriBrit; AmericaUnited; arasina; ...
Scooter Ping
23 posted on 10/05/2006 11:01:42 PM PDT by Howlin (Why Won't Nancy Pelosi Let Louis Freeh Investigate the Page Scandal?)
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To: Fedora

Splendid sleuthing, Fedora. Thank you~~!! Fitzie's pretty much buried Plame's status in his pursuit of Scooter, hasn't he?


24 posted on 10/05/2006 11:04:14 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: Liberty Valance

I'll check that out--I'm sure his perspective on it will be interesting :-)


25 posted on 10/05/2006 11:04:43 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
[ Was Plame Covert? A Review of Isikoff and Corn's Hubris ^ ]

Not hardly.. Joe Wilson bragging all over the east coast that his signifcant other was a double ought spy makes the word "COVERT" a joke..

26 posted on 10/05/2006 11:07:34 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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To: bpjam

Thanks for the observations. In that context I think Joseph Wilson's former marriage to a French embassy worker would raise similar issues. This guy was a honey trap victim waiting to happen, IMO.


27 posted on 10/05/2006 11:08:14 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: hosepipe
Yes :-) That will be the topic of my Question #19 when I get that far:

19. Was Plame’s CIA status an open secret in Washington before Novak’s column?

28 posted on 10/05/2006 11:09:51 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: STARWISE
Fitzie's pretty much buried Plame's status in his pursuit of Scooter, hasn't he?

Yes, he's asserted her covert status matter-of-factly, but not allowed the documents to challenge that assertion to surface. Hopefully FOIA requests which have been filed will bear some fruit (though I won't hold my breath waiting):

FOIA Request - Wilson/Plame

29 posted on 10/05/2006 11:14:34 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Well .. I read Ames already had compromised several people and that was why they scooped him up a little early. I guess I assumed he had outed her and that was why they brought her home .. but I agree with you they might have brought her in just to protect her.

But .. irregardless .. she and her husband lied and lied and lied. I still believe they're due some jail time.


30 posted on 10/05/2006 11:21:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Fedora

It's such a farce ... just on his brazen performance at the press conference announcing the charges alone. He should have to account for the accuracy of those melodramatic statements. Does the judge make the prosecutor prove the accuracy of those statements?


31 posted on 10/05/2006 11:24:54 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: CyberAnt

"I still believe they're due some jail time."

He'd probably be vulnerable to a libel suit, too, if the people he was attacking weren't public figures. I think Judith Miller and Scooter Libby would both have a good case.

Here's a snip from a report on the CIA's internal investigation of Ames which covers what he was up to at the time Plame was coming up through the CIA Farm and Turkey/Cyprus/Greek unit in the mid-80s to early 90s period.
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http://www.loyola.edu/dept/politics/intel/hitzrept.html


ABSTRACT OF REPORT OF INVESTIGATION
THE ALDRICH H. AMES CASE: AN ASSESSMENT OF CIA'S ROLE IN IDENTIFYING AMES AS AN INTELLIGENCE PENETRATION OF THE AGENCY
October 21, 1994

SNIP

WHAT WAS AMES'S CAREER HISTORY WITH CIA?

18. In June 1962, Ames completed full processing for staff employment with the Agency and entered on duty as a GS-4 document analyst in the Records Integration Division (RID) of the DO. Within RID, Ames read, coded, filed, and retrieved documents related to clandestine operations against an East European target. He remained in this position for five years while attending George Washington University, on a part-time or full-time basis. In September 1967, Ames received his Bachelor of Arts degree in history with an average grade of B-.

19. Ames originally viewed his work with RID as a stopgap measure to finance his way through college. However, he grew increasingly fascinated by intelligence operations against Communist countries, and, influenced by other RID colleagues who were entering the Career Trainee (CT) program, he applied and was accepted as a CT in December 1967. When Ames completed this training nearly a year later, he was assigned to an SE Division branch. He remained there for several months before beginning Turkish language studies.

20. Ames's first overseas posting took place between 1969 and 1972. It was not a successful tour, and the last Performance Appraisal Report (PAR) of his tour stated, in effect, that Ames was unsuited for field work and should spend the remainder of his career at Headquarters. The PAR noted that Ames preferred "assignments that do not involve face-to-face situations with relatively unknown personalities who must be manipulated." Such a comment was devastating for an operations officer, and Ames was discouraged enough to consider leaving the Agency.

21. Ames spent the next four years, 1972-76, at Headquarters in SE Division. Managing the paperwork and planning associated with field operations at a distance was more comfortable for Ames than trying to recruit in the field himself, and he won generally enthusiastic reviews from his supervisors. One payoff from this improved performance was the decision in September 1974 to name Ames as both the Headquarters and field case officer to manage a highly valued Agency asset.

22. Ames's opportunity to expand his field experience came with his assignment to the New York Base of the DO's Foreign Resources Division from 1976 to 1981. The PARs that Ames received during the last four of his five years in New York were the strongest of his career. These PARs led Ames to be ranked in the top 10% of GS-13 DO operations officers ranked for promotion in early 1982. He was promoted to GS-14 in May 1982.

23. The career momentum Ames established in New York was not maintained during his 1981-83 tour in Mexico City. This assignment, like his earlier tour and his later tour in Rome, failed to play to Ames's strengths as a handler of established sources and emphasized instead an area where he was weak--the development and recruitment of new assets. In Mexico City, Ames spent little time working outside the Embassy, developed few assets, and was chronically late with his financial accountings. Further, Ames developed problems with alcohol abuse that worsened to the point that he often was able to accomplish little work after long, liquid lunches. His PARs focused heavily, and negatively, on his failure to maintain proper accountings and were generally unenthusiastic. In Mexico City, Ames also became involved in an intimate relationship with the Colombian cultural attaché, Maria del Rosario Casas Dupuy.

24. Despite his lackluster performance in Mexico City, Ames returned to Headquarters in 1983 to a position that he valued highly. His appointment as Chief of a branch in an SE Division Group was recommended by the officer who had supervised Ames in New York and approved by Chief, SE Division and the DDO. This position gave him access to the Agency's worldwide Soviet operations. Ames completed this tour with SE Division by being selected by the SE Division Chief as one of the primary debriefers for the defector Vitaly Yurchenko from August to September 1985. For his work in the SE Division Group, Ames was ranked very near the lower quarter of DO operations officers at his grade at this time.

25. By early 1984, Ames was thinking ahead to his next field assignment and asked to go to Rome as Chief of a branch where he had access to information regarding many operations run or supported from that post. He left for Rome in 1986. He once again began to drink heavily, particularly at lunch, did little work, sometimes slept at his desk in the afternoons, rarely initiated developmental activity, and often fell behind in accountings, reporting and other administrative matters. Ames was successful in managing liaison relations with U.S. military intelligence units in Italy, but he registered few other achievements.

26. Ames's mediocre performance for the Agency in Rome did not prevent his assignment upon his return to Headquarters in mid 1989 to head a branch of an SE Division Group. Here again he had access to many sensitive cases. When that position was eliminated in a December 1989 reorganization of SE Division, Ames became Chief of another SE Division branch, where he remained until late 1990. At this time, Ames was ranked in the bottom 10% of DO GS-14 operations officers. He appears to have been a weak manager who focused only on what interested him.

27. Ames moved to a position in the Counterintelligence Center in October 1990. In the CIC, where he remained until August 1991, he prepared analytical papers on issues relating to the KGB but also had access to sensitive data bases. Discussions between Ames and the Deputy Chief, SE Division, resulted in Ames's temporary return to SE Division as head of a small KGB Working Group between August and November 1991.

28. In 1991, Chief SE Division requested that a counternarcotics program be established through liaison with the states of the former Soviet Union. Thereafter, Ames began a rotation to the Counternarcotics Center (CNC) in December 1991. At CNC, where Ames remained until his arrest, he worked primarily on developing a program for intelligence sharing between the United States and cooperating countries.

29. Ames was arrested on February 21, 1994. On that date, DCI Woolsey terminated his employment with the Agency.

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32 posted on 10/05/2006 11:36:04 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: STARWISE; the Real fifi

"Does the judge make the prosecutor prove the accuracy of those statements?"

I'll defer to Fifi on that question, LOL :-) Without knowing how all that works, my guess would be the judge can rule on it if Libby's defense raises a procedural objection to something the prosecution introduces, otherwise it's up to the defense to persuade the jury that any factual assertions are in error. Fifi and others may have more informed comments on that aspect of it.


33 posted on 10/05/2006 11:41:46 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora
Excellent analysis, and well written.

It also suggests that whether or not Plame was covert at the time of Novak’s column cannot be deduced simply by identifying her as a CPD employee, but more information about her position in the chain of command and her actual duties would be required to resolve this issue. This underscores the significance of the document declassification which Libby’s defense team has requested and Patrick Fitzgerald has resisted.

I agree with the above, but you can trust the dinosaur Democrat newsrooms to continue portraying Libby's requests as a deceitful, loophole-style tactic to evade justice ("graymail" - - the dinosaur newsrooms love that newly discovered term).

34 posted on 10/06/2006 12:03:07 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Fedora

FYI

http://www.complete911timeline.org/entity.jsp?entity=alan_foley


35 posted on 10/06/2006 12:07:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Fedora

Alan Foley
36 posted on 10/06/2006 12:16:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin

Thank you Howlin.


37 posted on 10/06/2006 1:10:07 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (By a miracle we lived through 'Eight Clinton Years of Living Hell'....NO MORE CLINTON'S...EVER!)
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To: Balata

Is the Pope Catholic?


38 posted on 10/06/2006 5:41:43 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: Howlin

bttt


39 posted on 10/06/2006 5:47:34 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Fedora; Shermy; piasa; Liz; backhoe; christie; GailA; Alamo-Girl; stockpirate; stands2reason; ...
Isn't it FUNNY how David Corn keeps popping up all over the place -- he's in the middle of the Plame business (and knew who the leak was and kept his mouth shut) and he's in the middle of the Mark Foley business too.... somebody should take a closer look.
40 posted on 10/06/2006 6:05:46 AM PDT by PDR
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