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NATO's Top Brass Accuse Pakistan Over Taliban Aid
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10-6-2006 | Ahmed Rashid

Posted on 10/05/2006 6:14:29 PM PDT by blam

Nato's top brass accuse Pakistan over Taliban aid

By Ahmed Rashid in Kabul
(Filed: 06/10/2006)

Commanders from five Nato countries whose troops have just fought the bloodiest battle with the Taliban in five years, are demanding their governments get tough with Pakistan over the support and sanctuary its security services provide to the Taliban.

Nato's report on Operation Medusa, an intense battle that lasted from September 4-17 in the Panjwai district, demonstrates the extent of the Taliban's military capability and states clearly that Pakistan's Interservices Intelligence (ISI) is involved in supplying it.

President Pervez Musharraf

Commanders from Britain, the US, Denmark, Canada and Holland are frustrated that even after Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf met George W Bush and Tony Blair last week, Western leaders are declining to call Mr Musharraf's bluff.

"It is time for an 'either you are with us or against us' delivered bluntly to Musharraf at the highest political level," said one Nato commander.

After the September 11 attacks in 2001 America gave Mr Musharraf a similar ultimatum to co-operate against the Taliban, who were then harbouring Osama bin Laden.

"Our boys in southern Afghanistan are hurting because of what is coming out of Quetta," he added.

The Taliban use the southern province of Balochistan to co-ordinate their insurgency and to recuperate after military action.

The cushion Pakistan is providing the Taliban is undermining the operation in Afghanistan, where 31,000 Nato troops are now based. The Canadians were most involved in Operation Medusa, two weeks of heavy fighting in a lush vineyard region, defeating 1,500 well entrenched Taliban, who had planned to attack Kandahar city, the capital of the south.

Nato officials now say they killed 1,100 Taliban fighters, not the 500 originally claimed. Hundreds of Taliban reinforcements in pick-up trucks who crossed over from Quetta – waved on by Pakistani border guards – were destroyed by Nato air and artillery strikes.

Nato captured 160 Taliban, many of them Pakistanis who described in detail the ISI's support to the Taliban.

Nato is now mapping the entire Taliban support structure in Balochistan, from ISI- run training camps near Quetta to huge ammunition dumps, arrival points for Taliban's new weapons and meeting places of the shura, or leadership council, in Quetta, which is headed by Mullah Mohammed Omar, the group's leader since its creation a dozen years ago.

Nato and Afghan officers say two training camps for the Taliban are located just outside Quetta, while the group is using hundreds of madrassas where the fighters are housed and fired up ideologically before being sent to the front.

Many madrassas now being listed are run by the Jamiat-e-Ullema Islam, a political party that governs Balochistan and the North West Frontier Province. The party helped spawn the Taliban in 1994.

"Taliban decision-making and its logistics are all inside Pakistan," said the Afghan defense minister, General Rahim Wardak.

A post-battle intelligence report compiled by Nato and Afghan forces involved in Operation Medusa demonstrates the logistical capability of the Taliban.

During the battle the Taliban fired an estimated 400,000 rounds of ammunition, 2,000 rocket-propelled grenades and 1,000 mortar shells, which slowly arrived in Panjwai from Quetta over the spring months. Ammunition dumps unearthed after the battle showed that the Taliban had stocked over one million rounds in Panjwai.

In Panjwai the Taliban had also established a training camp to teach guerrillas how to penetrate Kandahar, a separate camp to train suicide bombers and a full surgical field hospital. Nato estimated the cost of Taliban ammunition stocks at around £2.6 million. "The Taliban could not have done this on their own without the ISI," said a senior Nato officer.

Gen Musharraf this week admitted that "retired" ISI officers might be involved in aiding the Taliban, the closest he has come to admitting the agency's role.


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1 posted on 10/05/2006 6:14:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
And the Scary part is we could all wake up one day,Turn on TV and find out that Al Queada has a country
2 posted on 10/05/2006 6:16:54 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: blam
IMO, Pervez Musharraf is getting ready to bail. All bets are off.
3 posted on 10/05/2006 6:17:14 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: blam

Mush needs to get "an offer he can't refuse"..


4 posted on 10/05/2006 6:20:14 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: blam

I love this part!! WooHooo guys!! Thank you!

Nato officials now say they killed 1,100 Taliban fighters, not the 500 originally claimed.


5 posted on 10/05/2006 6:22:32 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
IMO, Pervez Musharraf is getting ready to bail. All bets are off.

Pakistan undoubtedly has more Islamist nutballs than any Muslim nation on earth. The fact that the (relatively moderate) Musharraf gov't possesses a nuclear arsenal is barely acceptable. ....and incredibly dangerous. But a likely successor gov't possessing that arsenal is completely unacceptable, and a situation we'd have to deal with both immediately and militarily.

6 posted on 10/05/2006 6:28:54 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: US_MilitaryRules
This is a good one too:

"Hundreds of Taliban reinforcements in pick-up trucks who crossed over from Quetta – waved on by Pakistani border guards – were destroyed by Nato air and artillery strikes."

7 posted on 10/05/2006 6:32:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mr. Mojo
A Muslim controlled Pakistan military would rather use than lose what few nuclear weapons they have. Russia and China need to get on board.
8 posted on 10/05/2006 6:52:30 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: blam

start bombing on the Pak side of the border. what are they going to do about it?


9 posted on 10/05/2006 6:54:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: operation clinton cleanup

we would bomb their weapons storage plants about 15 minutes after the coup.


10 posted on 10/05/2006 6:55:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: blam

Have Armitage give him a call.


11 posted on 10/05/2006 6:57:43 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: oceanview
we would bomb their weapons storage plants about 15 minutes after the coup.

Probably. But how about their nukes that already sit atop ballistic missiles (of which they have dozens)? We'd run the risk of them figuring they better "use them or lose them". ....but it's a risk we'd have to take.

12 posted on 10/05/2006 7:02:27 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo

who will they fire them at? Kabul? maybe. India? why?


13 posted on 10/05/2006 7:03:48 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Our troops.


14 posted on 10/05/2006 7:04:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
who will they fire them at? Kabul? maybe. India? why?

India.. why not? Usem or losem.

15 posted on 10/05/2006 7:13:10 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: oceanview
we would bomb their weapons storage plants about 15 minutes after the coup.

George Soros and Speaker Pelosi might delay things.

16 posted on 10/05/2006 7:14:52 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: oceanview
"we would bomb their weapons storage plants about 15 minutes after the coup."

We would probably be bombing Indian commandos then.

The Indians must know every detail about those nukes/missiles.

17 posted on 10/05/2006 7:16:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: Mr. Mojo

Good point Mr. Mojo, and one that few people consider. We've also a large naval fleet within range of Pakistan's ballistic missiles.


18 posted on 10/05/2006 7:18:07 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: cmsgop

I doubt al Qaeda would want to make an official declaration, but keep things as they are now where they control, but have Musharraf running interference for them.


19 posted on 10/05/2006 7:21:10 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: backtothestreets

Yep, our Navy in the Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf, and our bases/troop concentrations in Afghanistan. I'm not sure if their missiles have the range to hit our bases in Iraq, but if not it's pretty darn close.


20 posted on 10/05/2006 7:28:47 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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