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1 posted on 10/05/2006 8:11:05 AM PDT by SmithL
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Pandering to the illegal voters?

Phil must be getting campaign advise from Gray Davis.


2 posted on 10/05/2006 8:11:53 AM PDT by SmithL (Where are we going? . . . . And why are we in this handbasket????)
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To: SmithL

As soon as he takes out of the budget all the millions spent on illegals in the city that the taxpayers should save with a wall, he can tell us it is of no value.


3 posted on 10/05/2006 8:12:45 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: SmithL
Phil Angelides thinks illegal aliens are popular with California voters. He has forgotten Gray Davis was recalled, among other things, for signing a bill granting illegals drivers' licenses that was subsequently repealed by the voters in a referendum. His opposition to a border fence reveals he is out of touch with mainstream Californians on the issue of immigration.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 10/05/2006 8:20:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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he would take a "compassionate and pragmatic" approach as governor to the politically volatile immigration issue.


Translation: "Come on in and make yourselves at home!"
7 posted on 10/05/2006 8:24:41 AM PDT by Deo volente
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"Phil Angelides says he doesn't favor erecting "a Great Wall of China" to keep illegal immigrants out of California, adding that he would take a "compassionate and pragmatic" approach as governor to the politically volatile immigration issue."

Sure Phil Baby, just keep California on the same path its on right now. Pretty soon, Los Angeles and other select cities won't be the only safe-haven for illegals. The whole state will belong to them...


8 posted on 10/05/2006 8:25:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: SmithL

Of course he thinks it's wrong. It would keep out many of his constituents.


10 posted on 10/05/2006 8:34:30 AM PDT by L98Fiero (Evil is an exact science)
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To: SmithL
Phil Angelides says he doesn't favor erecting "a Great Wall of China" to keep illegal immigrants out of California, adding that he would take a "compassionate and pragmatic" approach as governor to the politically volatile immigration issue.

Translation - I'll let open the floodgates and make 'em all Democratic voters.

11 posted on 10/05/2006 8:34:40 AM PDT by dirtboy (Good fences make good neighbors)
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To: SmithL

Say goodnight, Phil.


12 posted on 10/05/2006 8:36:24 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: SmithL
adding that he would take a "compassionate and pragmatic" approach as governor to the politically volatile immigration issue.

Why is it that whenever I hear a politician say the word "compassionate", I think they're just getting ready to stick their hand in my pocket?

Don't even get me started on the word "pragmatic".

:-)

13 posted on 10/05/2006 8:40:28 AM PDT by MamaTexan (~Some people think FREEDOM means doing only what they approve of! ~)
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14 posted on 10/05/2006 8:49:46 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: SmithL

Angelides has to be the dumbest politician on the planet!
And with Angelides as his opponent, RINOld is the luckiest SOB running for reelection.

Hell, a fencepost could beat Angelides


16 posted on 10/05/2006 8:56:56 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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So, his argument is that we don't need a fence and by the way how come you're not getting the $750 million in costs that that the lack of a fence is costing us?
17 posted on 10/05/2006 9:00:29 AM PDT by glorgau
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"compassionate and pragmatic" approach as governor

Compassionate - "OK all you legal citizens of California, you can't think you have rights over illegals, open up your wallets and give me your hard earned money so we can show them compassion."

Pragmatic - "Wow, since we have all this new tax revenue, I've got a bunch of croonies and pet projects that could use funding........"

18 posted on 10/05/2006 9:05:10 AM PDT by Godzilla (No God, No Peace - Know God, Know Peace)
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In a meeting with The Bee editorial board Wednesday, the Democratic gubernatorial candidate said he favors granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants because doing so would make California's roads safer.

I love the logic of the "safer roads" argument:
A. Illegals drive without licenses anyway
B. If we gave them licenses, they'll have to learn the rules so that they can be issued one, therefore the roads will be safer.

If we believe (B), then we have to believe that, once licenses are possible, an illegal won't drive if he fails the test and can't get one. However, we already have evidence that that isn't going to happen: see (A).

What we'll really get is every illegal who's afraid to drive without a license today will suddenly be able to get one, putting God knows how many new drivers (many driving 'inexpensive' clunkers with bald tires, questionable brakes, and no insurance) on our clogged roads.

22 posted on 10/05/2006 1:35:16 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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Well, Angelides is doing better than the normal Liberal moron. The wall is a bad idea. However, as soon as he starts babbling about "compassion" and "pragmatism" I have to suppress a reflex to barf.

What really pisses me off is that this piece of political doodoo got thru Congress instead of meaningful legislation that will make a difference. What REALLY gets my dander up is that the Great American Doormat signed the thing into law yesterday rather than vetoing it and beating up on Congress for sending him frivolous legislation.

So, Congress in its infinite wisdom is going to solve our immigration problems with a 700-mile fence!? Seven hundred miles of fence to cover a 2,000 mile border while we conveniently forget about little details like boats and coastlines! A $1.2 billion dollar monument to political cowardice! GRRRR!

You don't kill a market by blocking supply. You stop a market by drying up demand! Any attempt to seal the borders of the United States against illegal immigrants is doomed to costly failure! The Soviet Union used fences, walls, barbed wire, guard towers, land mines, guard dogs, and machine-guns to keep its people in and was unsuccessful! I know the US will never be equally draconian and so I am certain this 700 mile fence will inevitably and expensively fail.

We have a deluge of illegal immigrants trying to cross our borders and, consequently, a serious security problem! Herds of impoverished illegals overwhelm our border patrols and provide excellent cover for the small number of criminals and terrorists who wish to do us harm. Dry up demand for illegals and soon our border guards will only have to worry about our enemies.

Instead of a fancy fence, we should have a genuine guest worker program that meets the honest needs of our economy while allowing guest workers to keep as much of their dignity as possible and while protecting them from de-facto slavery under unscrupulous employers.

Most importantly, US employers who willfully ignore or subvert the provisions of guest worker laws should be subject to SEVERE penalties. Hiring illegal aliens should be a felony offense that guarantees employers and corporate officers JAIL time and HEAVY fines.

It must be difficult for illegal immigrants to stay in the shadows of our society. Illegal immigrants must not be able to obtain drivers licenses and access to the social safety net that is available to citizens and legal immigrants. Meals and schooling for children and emergency medical care is the VERY most that illegals should be entitled to. Employees of US government agencies (except for the Census Bureau) that fail to investigate for evidence of illegals and provide that evidence to the INS for action should be immediately and irrevocably FIRED from their government jobs.

Those who smuggle foreign nationals into the U.S. should be subject to the most severe penalties — up to capital punishment in cases where people die in the course of being smuggled into the U.S.

Simply being born in this country should not entitle anyone to US citizenship unless at least one (and preferably both) parents are here LEGALLY!

Oh, for some good Libertarian or Teddy Roosevelt Republican candidates! I'm sick and tired of these bleeping Dimocrats and Repisslican candidates that I have to pick from! The most irritating thing about both the Dimocrats and Repisslicans is that as soon as they get to DC they get a chocolate eclair for a spinal transplant and an (empty) piggy bank for a brain transplant!

Boy, this was a long one! Sure feels good to get it off my chest, tho.
23 posted on 10/05/2006 3:07:03 PM PDT by lechtellhavel (Giving money and power to govt is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.-PJ O'Rourke)
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