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'KILL BILL' (THE CLINTON-FOLEY NEXUS: A THEORY)
FoxNews, C-SPAN, bill clinton, hillary clinton | 10.05.06 | Mia T

Posted on 10/05/2006 3:00:14 AM PDT by Mia T


'KILL BILL'
THE CLINTON-FOLEY NEXUS: A THEORY



by Mia T, 10.05.06



 



he timing of the Foley revelations is a bit odd. If the intended beneficiary of the political dirty trick was the Democrats, surely the perpetrators would have sprung it closer to Election Day. A month is an eternity in politics (irrespective of the fact that it is the pundit class' favorite hedge).

TEMPUS ACTUM

If not the Democrats then who? Who benefits from the odd timing? And who has the means, the motive, the opportunity--and the m.o.-- 1, 2 to pull off this dirty trick?

WHO BENEFITS?

The clintons had been hemorrhaging ever since the first week in September when the husband, by attempting to quash the ABC movie, "The Path to 9/11," managed to accomplish in mere days what his opponents failed for years to effectuate, namely, to focus the electorate simultaneously on the clinton jackboot 3, 4 and on the clinton failure to confront terrorism. 5

If the story had legs, continued clinton stupidity and arrogance made them sprint. And as if dispatching the tired clinton scold, the tired clinton spinners and the tired clinton playbook weren't enough to keep story on page one of The New York Times above the fold, clinton brought his tired clinton shtick to FoxNews Sunday.

'KILL BILL'

What the country finally learned--fittingly on the fifth anniversary of 9/11--was that clinton didn't simply fail to kill bin Laden.

Clinton refused to kill or even capture bin Laden.

Clinton refused to kill or even capture bin Laden even as he pretended to go after bin Laden.

Clinton refused to kill or even capture bin Laden even as he pretended to go after bin Laden because killing or even capturing bin Laden would have denied clinton the Nobel Peace Prize and he couldn't let us know he valued the prize more than keeping this country safe. 6, 7

VIRTUAL KILL

With everyone beginning to understand the dynamics of the clinton failure to fight terrorism, 8 prospects appeared even bleaker for the quondam shoo-in and for her husband's legacy, to which said prospects are inextricably bound.

As long as the voters believe the clintons willfully failed to kill or even capture bin Laden--and worse, that they did so for reasons of self-aggrandizement--there can be no scenario in which they recapture the White House.

Hence, bill clinton's 'virtual kill' on Fox Sunday morning.

Although "kill him" must have polled really, really well, the interview didn't help the clintons; the story remained on page one... and the hemorrhaging continued...

That is, until the Foley scandal hit the fan....



VIRTUAL KILL
THE CHRIS WALLACE-BILL CLINTON INTERVIEW DECONSTRUCTED




by Mia T, 9.27.06

 





virtual kill
of bin Laden seems apt. One should never expect more of bill clinton. And there is a certain symmetry, a perfect parry for clinton's 'virtual obsession.' 9



Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

The Other Nixon
Mia T


Now that everyone is beginning to understand the willfulness of clinton failure to fight terrorism, the willfulness of clinton failure to kill bin Laden, 10 prospects seem even bleaker for the quondam shoo-in and for her husband's legacy, to which said prospects are inextricably bound.

As long as the voters believe the clintons willfully failed to kill or even capture bin Laden--and worse, that they did so for reasons of self-aggrandizement--there can be no scenario in which they recapture the White House.

Hence, bill clinton's 'virtual kill' on Fox Sunday morning.

"Kill him" must have polled really, really well....


"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer




"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession 2 with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live



"You know... the job which we should have done 1... which should have been our primary focus, to find [you know] bin Laden and eliminate al Qaeda."

hillary clinton
Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006
Chitchat with Jane Pauley
San Francisco, CA



"In this interdependent world, we should still have a preference for peace over war....

But sometimes we would have these debates where people would say, if I didn't take some military action this very day, people would look down their nose at America and think we were weak.  And I always thought of Senator Fulbright.... 6

So anytime somebody said in my presence, 'Hey, if you don't do this, people will think you're weak,' I always asked the same question for eight years, 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' 

I don't think we can bring 'em back tomorrow, but can we kill 'em tomorrow?  If we can kill them tomorrow, then we're not weak.... 1

I learned that as a 20-year-old kid watching Bill Fulbright.  Listening."

bill clinton
Fulbright Prize address
April 12, 2006


The president seems to be able, the former president seems to be able to deny facts with impunity. Bin Laden is alive today because Mr. Clinton, Mr. Sandy Berger, and Mr. Richard Clarke refused to kill him. That's the bottom line. And every time he says what he said to Chris Wallace on Fox, he defames the CIA especially, and the men and women who risk their lives to give his administration repeated chances to kill bin Laden."

... [T]he fact of the matter is that the Bush Administration had one chance that they botched, and the Clinton Administration had eight to ten chances that they refused to try. At least at Tora Bora our forces were on the ground. We didn't push the point. But it's just, it's an incredible kind of situation for the American people over the weekend to hear their former president mislead them."

Michael Scheuer
CBS Terror Expert, Iraq War Critic
former CIA head for hunting Bin Laden
Monday CBS Early Show



 

It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.

G. K. Chesterton

 

... While America appears not to be ready for a female president under any circumstances, the post-9/11 realities pose special problems for a female presidential candidate. Add to these the problems unique to missus clinton. The reviews make the mistake of focusing on the problems of the generic female presidential candidate running during ordinary times.

These are not ordinary times. America is waging the global War on Terror; the uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds is the battlefield; the enemy is brutal, subhuman; the threat of global conflagration is real.

Defeating the enemy isn't sufficient. For America to prevail, she must also defeat a retrograde, misogynous mindset. To successfully prosecute the War on Terror, it is essential that the collective patriarchal islamic culture perceives America as politically and militarily strong. Condi Rice excepted, this requirement presents an insurmountable hurdle for any female presidential candidate, and especially missus clinton, historically antimilitary--(an image, incidentally, that is only enhanced today by her clumsy, termagant parody of Thatcher), forever the pitiful victim, and, according to Dick Morris, "the biggest dove in the clinton administration."

It is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason... and, in spite of Juanita Broaddrick, or perhaps because of her, Rod Lurie would be reduced to perversely hawking the "First Gentleman" instead of the "Commander-in-Chief."

Mia T, 10.02.05
HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM
(see descriptor morphs)


'BIN LADEN ALIVE TODAY BECAUSE CLINTON, BERGER + CLARKE REFUSED TO KILL HIM' :HEAR Osama-Division CIA Chief
CLINTON 'MISLED AMERICAN PEOPLE' IN CHRIS WALLACE INTERVIEW

by Mia T, 9.26.06



CBS Terror Expert, Iraq War Critic and former CIA head for hunting Bin Laden on Monday CBS Early Show....

 

Harry Smith: "Elizabeth Palmer live in Pakistan this morning, thank you. I'm going to go back now to Michael Scheuer once again. Let's talk about what President Clinton had to say on Fox yesterday. He basically laid blame at the feet of the CIA and the FBI for not being able to certify or verify that Osama bin Laden was responsible for a number of different attacks. Does that ring true to you?"

Michael Scheuer: "No, sir, I don't think so. The president seems to be able, the former president seems to be able to deny facts with impunity. Bin Laden is alive today because Mr. Clinton, Mr. Sandy Berger, and Mr. Richard Clarke refused to kill him. That's the bottom line. And every time he says what he said to Chris Wallace on Fox, he defames the CIA especially, and the men and women who risk their lives to give his administration repeated chances to kill bin Laden."

Harry Smith: "All right, is the Bush administration any less responsible for not finishing the job in Tora Bora?"

Michael Scheuer: "Oh, I think there's plenty of blame to go around, sir, but the fact of the matter is that the Bush Administration had one chance that they botched, and the Clinton Administration had eight to ten chances that they refused to try. At least at Tora Bora our forces were on the ground. We didn't push the point. But it's just, it's an incredible kind of situation for the American people over the weekend to hear their former president mislead them."



HEAR 'THE PATH TO 9/11' SCREENWRITER:
CLINTON WILLFULLY FAILED TO NAIL BIN LADEN
AS MANY AS A DOZEN TIMES: CIA




"I have heard from other CIA people that there was as many as a dozen incidents, missions, etc. where the will was not there to green-light the operation. And everybody was in place, whether it was a missile attack, a bomb run, an ambush of bin Laden by tribals on the ground, or that they had pinpointed him at Tarnak Farm or his hunting lodge.

There were numerous opportunities. We only focused on one. We used it as sort of an amalgamation of the numerous different opportunities because you can't show a dozen attempts in a movie; and I don't think a lot of people would have been happy if we did that either...."

CYRUS NOWRASTEH
'THE PATH TO 9/11' WRITER, PRODUCER
THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW, SEPT. 8, 2006


'The Path to 9/11'
CLINTON FAILURE TO ORDER 'PURE KILL' CUT CHANCES OF GETTING BIN LADEN IN HALF
8
(WHICH TIPPING HIM OFF QUICKLY REDUCED TO ZERO) 9

'WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN"

(DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?)
Part Two:

 

by Mia t, 9.8.06

 

 

9/11 Commission: Clinton Refused to Let CIA Kill Bin Laden

Announcing some of its preliminary findings on Wednesday, the 9/11 Commission has confirmed that President Clinton ordered the CIA to take Osama bin Laden alive or not at all - a directive that made the task of neutralizing the terrorist kingpin infinitely more difficult.

In a statement read at the beginning of Wednesday's session, 9/11 staffer Michael Hurley revealed:

"CIA senior managers, operators and lawyers uniformly said that they read the relevant authorities signed by President Clinton as instructing them to try to capture bin Laden.

"They believed that the only acceptable context for killing bin Laden was a credible capture operation. 'We always talked about how much easier it would have been to try to kill him,'" a former chief of the bin Laden station told the Commission.

"Working level CIA officers were frustrated by what they saw as the policy restraints of having to instruct their assets to mount a capture operation," the Commission statement said.

Commission staffer Hurley detailed one attempt to recruit indigenous Afghan forces in a bin Laden capture operation, explaining, "When Northern Alliance leader Massoud was briefed on the carefully worded instructions for him, the briefer recalled that Massoud laughed and said, 'You Americans are crazy. You guys never change.'"

... Last week NBC News quoted former CIA official Gary Schroen as saying that White House orders to spare bin Laden's life cut the chances of getting him in half, from 50 to 25 percent.

Schroen's revelation - now confirmed by the 9/11 Commission - was ignored by the mainstream press beyond its initial coverage by NBC.

NewsMax.com
Wednesday, Mar. 24, 2004 10:26 AM EST


WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN"
(DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?)
(Part One)
by Mia t, 2.15.06


 



"You cannot explain to me why we have not captured or killed the tallest man in Afghanistan."

hear hillary clinton

 

"You know... the job which we should have done 1... which should have been our primary focus, to find [you know] bin Laden and eliminate al Qaeda."

hear hillary clinton
Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006
Chitchat with Jane Pauley
San Francisco, CA

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.3

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

hear bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer


 



hen the damning tape surfaced, focus was naturally on bill clinton's (oops!) admission.

No one paid much attention to what may turn out to be even more incriminating: clinton's curious explanation of the missile strike at Kandahur that took out a phalanxlike formation of... empty tents... and allowed bin Laden (and the Mideast Muslim ego) to escape unscathed.

Ever notice how a crook volunteers way too much information when he's trying to explain away his crimes? This is especially true when the crook thinks you're an idiot and he's a genius.

"When I bombed his training camp and tried to kill him and his high command in 1998 after the African -Embassy bombings, some people criticized me for doing it. We just barely missed him by a couple of hours. I think whoever told us he was going to be there told somebody who told him that our missiles might be there. I think we were ratted out.7"

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer

I agree. We were ratted out. bill clinton could not afford to capture or kill bin Laden. This information courtesy of none other than Madeleine Albright.

clinton's reaction--or should I say non-reaction-- to the USS Cole bombing in 2000--an unambiguous act of war--validates Albright's assertion.

clinton's refusal to take bin Laden in 1996--validates Albright's assertion.

That clinton summarily ignored and urged all of us to ignore the first attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, the 1993 WTC bombing--ignore the first major Islamofascist terrorist attack on the continental United States!!--validates Albright's assertion.

The fact that "our national mourner," bill "I feel your pain" clinton, never even visited the site--he was only 15 minutes away mere days after the 1993 WTC bombing--validates Albright's assertion like nothing else.







7. The ABC miniseries, 'The Path to 9/11,' reports that Albright, herself, did the ratting, which makes sense: Madeleine Albright was obviously the clintons' Nobel Peace Prize point man and facilitator.




'MAKE IT A RULE' -- PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR OSAMA WITH CLINTON and CO.
(HEAR HILLARY + BILL MAKE THEIR PITCH)
by Mia t, 2.13.06





ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE
(and doesn't even know it)
by Mia T, 4.28.06


ALBRIGHT1: 'Bin Laden and his Network Declared War2 on the United States and Struck First and We Have Suffered Deeply'


 

I M P E A C H M E N T
h e a r --c l i n t o n --l o s e --i t



by Mia T, 11.11.05

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency.

Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

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COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006


"PAPER TIGER"

 

Feckless clinton inaction and feckless clinton action serve only to reinforce the almost universally held notion: the clinton calculus was, is, and always will be, solely self-serving.

It is the clintons' bin-Laden-emboldening inaction to the attack on the USS Cole and the clintons' bin-Laden-emboldening token, ineffectual, August 1998 missile strikes of aspirin factories and empty tents that eliminate "bin-Laden-emboldenment avoidance" as the rationale for the latter decision and support "wag the dog," instead.

In the case of the non-response to the attack on the Cole, an unambiguous act of war, the clinton rationale was a clinton Nobel Peace Prize by Arab appeasement. i.e., a clinton Nobel Peace Prize by bin-Laden-emboldenment.

And in the case of the curiously-timed, ineffectual (and, therefore, bin-Laden-emboldening) token missile strikes, the clinton rationale was Lewinsky-recantation distraction -- clearly not bin-Laden-emboldenment avoidance. (This is not to say there wasn't a Nobel factor here, too. Obsolete intelligence, bolstered by the redundancy of a clinton tipoff, ensured that both bin Laden and the Mideast Muslim ego would escape unscathed.)

"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession 2 with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live


 

 

INTERVIEW Osama bin Laden
(may 1998)

In the first part of this interview which occurred in May 1998, a little over two months before the U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, Osama bin Laden answers questions posed to him by some of his followers at his mountaintop camp in southern Afghanistan. In the latter part of the interview, ABC reporter John Miller is asking the questions.

 

 

Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia.

After our victory in Afghanistan and the defeat of the oppressors who had killed millions of Muslims, the legend about the invincibility of the superpowers vanished. Our boys no longer viewed America as a superpower. So, when they left Afghanistan, they went to Somalia and prepared themselves carefully for a long war. They had thought that the Americans were like the Russians, so they trained and prepared. They were stunned when they discovered how low was the morale of the American soldier. America had entered with 30,000 soldiers in addition to thousands of soldiers from different countries in the world. As I said, our boys were shocked by the low morale of the American soldier and they realized that the American soldier was just a paper tiger. He was unable to endure the strikes that were dealt to his army, so he fled, and America had to stop all its bragging and all that noise it was making in the press after the Gulf War in which it destroyed the infrastructure and the milk and dairy industry that was vital for the infants and the children and the civilians and blew up dams which were necessary for the crops people grew to feed their families. Proud of this destruction, America assumed the titles of world leader and master of the new world order. After a few blows, it forgot all about those titles and rushed out of Somalia in shame and disgrace, dragging the bodies of its soldiers. America stopped calling itself world leader and master of the new world order, and its politicians realized that those titles were too big for them and that they were unworthy of them. I was in Sudan when this happened. I was very happy to learn of that great defeat that America suffered, so was every Muslim....

 

 

The American people, by and large, do not know the name bin Laden, but they soon likely will. Do you have a message for the American people?

I say to them that they have put themselves at the mercy of a disloyal government, and this is most evident in Clinton's administration....
BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE

 

 

 

 

Lopez: In sum, how many times did Bill Clinton lose bin Laden?

 

Miniter: Here's a rundown. The Clinton administration:

1. Did not follow-up on the attempted bombing of Aden marines in Yemen.

2. Shut the CIA out of the 1993 WTC bombing investigation, hamstringing their effort to capture bin Laden.

3. Had Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a key bin Laden lieutenant, slip through their fingers in Qatar.

4. Did not militarily react to the al Qaeda bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

5. Did not accept the Sudanese offer to turn bin Laden.

6. Did not follow-up on another offer from Sudan through a private back channel.

7. Objected to Northern Alliance efforts to assassinate bin Laden in Afghanistan.

8. Decided against using special forces to take down bin Laden in Afghanistan.

9. Did not take an opportunity to take into custody two al Qaeda operatives involved in the East African embassy bombings. In another little scoop, I am able to show that Sudan arrested these two terrorists and offered them to the FBI. The Clinton administration declined to pick them up and they were later allowed to return to Pakistan.

10. Ordered an ineffectual, token missile strike against a Sudanese pharmaceutical factory.

11. Clumsily tipped off Pakistani officials sympathetic to bin Laden before a planned missile strike against bin Laden on August 20, 1998. Bin Laden left the camp with only minutes to spare.

12-14. Three times, Clinton hesitated or deferred in ordering missile strikes against bin Laden in 1999 and 2000.

15. When they finally launched and armed the Predator spy drone plane, which captured amazing live video images of bin Laden, the Clinton administration no longer had military assets in place to strike the archterrorist.

16. Did not order a retaliatory strike on bin Laden for the murderous attack on the USS Cole.


 



THE (oops!) INADVERTENT ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON part one




UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS
"We have to do it now. We know what happens if we just sit here and do nothing...."




CLINTON: 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'
(+ Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations)



 


WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM?
Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security?



'The Path to 9/11' Annotated:
CLIPS, SYNOPSIS, THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS, THE CLINTON JACKBOOT



'The Path to 9/11': CLINTON FAILURE TO ORDER 'PURE KILL' CUT CHANCES OF GETTING BIN LADEN IN HALF


HEAR 'THE PATH TO 9/11' SCREENWRITER:
CLINTON WILLFULLY FAILED TO NAIL BIN LADEN AS MANY AS A DOZEN TIMES: CIA



HILLARY'S FECKLESS 'DEFENSE' OF BILL WILL DAMAGE BOTH CLINTONS
THE CHRIS WALLACE INTERVIEW BLOWBACK



'BIN LADEN ALIVE TODAY BECAUSE CLINTON, BERGER + CLARKE REFUSED TO KILL HIM'
CLINTON 'MISLED AMERICAN PEOPLE' IN CHRIS WALLACE INTERVIEW
:HEAR Osama-Division CIA Chief


THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN HILLARY CLINTON'S DISCLOSED ASSETS: An Alternative Theory


WHEN CATTLE FUTURES ARE THE FUTURE:
HILLARY CLINTON'S COW TRADES AS PROGNOSTIC



SOMALIA + RWANDA UNDERSCORE WHY WE MUST DEFEAT THE CLINTONS NOW (ATTENTION NEW YORKERS)


IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY


BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE)
THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE


UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS
"We have to do it now. We know what happens if we just sit here and do nothing...."


MISSING CLINTON AUDIO! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'
(+Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations)


WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN"
(DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?)


ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE (and doesn't even know it)


'MAKE IT A RULE' -- PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR OSAMA WITH CLINTON and CO.
(HEAR HILLARY + BILL MAKE THEIR PITCH)


THE (oops!) INADVERTENT (TERRORISM) ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON (HEAR HILLARY IN SF)


HILLARY GOES NUCLEAR
PROLIFERATION IN THE AGE OF CLINTON



THE FAILED, DYSFUNCTIONAL CLINTON PRESIDENCY
(DECONSTRUCTING CLINTON'S HOFSTRA SPEECH) -- part1: clinton's "Brinkley" Lie


AFTERWORD: ON CLINTON SMALLNESS
(BRINKLEY MISSES THE POINT)


PRESIDENTIAL FAILURE, 9/11 + KATRINA


Carpe Mañana: The (bill + hillary) clinton Terrorism Policy
('Can we kill 'em tomorrow?')



CHENEY: CALL THEM REPREHENSIBLE
THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES5


sandy berger haberdashery feint
(the specs, not the pants or the socks)


CLINTON TREASON + THE GORELICK WALL


Reverse Gorelick


THE LEFT'S RECKLESS TET-OFFENSIVE-GAMBIT REPLAY:
the left's jihad against America is killing our troops, aiding + abetting the terrorists and imperiling all Americans


CLINTON RAPES, REVISIONISM, USEFUL IDIOTS AND ENTROPY (an update)


pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic
WHY THE LEFT IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA



The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality
(Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President)


WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES
(Please see post 65)


IN A 'PINCH': RETHINKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT
(Which came first, the 'journalist' or the traitor?)



PINCH SULZBERGER, PEARL HARBOR + TREASON
WHY WE MUST PROSECUTE THE NEW YORK TIMES


'MISBEGOTTEN' TIMES
(NARROWNESS, MR. SULZBERGER, NOT WIDTH)


WHY BIN LADEN WANTS HOME DELIVERY OF THE NEW YORK TIMES

MORE





'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'
THE ADDRESS
THE (oops!) TRUTH


"In this interdependent world, we should still have a preference for peace over war....

But sometimes we would have these debates where people would say, if I didn't take some military action this very day, people would look down their nose at America and think we were weak.  And I always thought of Senator Fulbright.... 6

So anytime somebody said in my presence, 'Hey, if you don't do this, people will think you're weak,' I always asked the same question for eight years, 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' 

I don't think we can bring 'em back tomorrow, but can we kill 'em tomorrow?  If we can kill them tomorrow, then we're not weak.... 1

I learned that as a 20-year-old kid watching Bill Fulbright.  Listening."

bill clinton
Fulbright Prize address
April 12, 2006

 

"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.

We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].

At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.

So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."

bill clinton
Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio:
I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer




"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'

I thought that my virtual obsession 2 with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."

bill clinton
Sunday, Sept 3, 2002
Larry King Live



"You know... the job which we should have done 1... which should have been our primary focus, to find [you know] bin Laden and eliminate al Qaeda."

hillary clinton
Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006
Chitchat with Jane Pauley
San Francisco, CA

... I thank you for this award, even though, in general, I think former presidents and presidents should never get awards.  I was delighted when Jimmy Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize because I thought he earned it, and I thought it was great because he got it as much for what he did after office as when he was in office.  In general, I think that the fact that we got to be president is quite honor enough.

bill clinton
Fulbright Prize address
April 12, 2006

"Bill Clinton is still campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. But for now, he'll just have to settle for "the political play of the week."

Bill Schneider
CNN
reporting on the Fulbright Prize
April 14, 2006

 

 

 

WASHINGTON -- Two Norwegian public-relations executives and one member of the Norwegian Parliament say they were contacted by the White House to help campaign for President Clinton to receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize for his work in trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East.

Clinton Lobbies for Nobel Prize: What a Punk
White House Lobbied For Clinton Nobel Peace Prize Updated
Friday, October 13, 2000
By Rita Cosby

 

 

 

There's been speculation in the last few months that Clinton was pursuing a Mideast peace accord in an effort to win the prize and secure his legacy as president.

AIDES PUSH CLINTON FOR THE NOBEL

 


 

 

At the time, clinton observed: "I made more progress in the Middle East than I did between Socks and Buddy." Retrospectively, it is clear that clinton's characterization was not correct.

Mia T
Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers


 

I M P E A C H M E N T
h e a r --c l i n t o n --l o s e --i t



by Mia T, 11.11.05

This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency.

Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

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To: Stallone
Interesting segue.

I am of the opinion that it's better to consider each case on its own merits.
The clintons only benefit from lumping the less provable and sometimes unsubstantiated with the downright indicting.

"Coincidental" implies accidential (but with the appearance of having been arranged).
There was nothing accidental about the death of Ron Brown.

Sudden change in orders mandated by clinton, himself, altered the Ron-Brown dynamic from
an intractable man in DC about to blow the whistle on clinton corruption (both clintons)
to a biddable sitting duck in Croatia patiently waiting to be blown away....

The clintons are
psychopathic, self-absorbed thugs.

Some
details:

 


"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update
by Mia T, 7.23.05






Ironically, the logic of this pronouncement by Martin Luther King would, in short order, be refuted by the reality of his own lynching. King's hope was misplaced and his reasoning was circular. The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Adherence to the rule of law is not something normally associated with the clintons. Moreover, racial and ethnic disrespect, intimidation, exploitation and hate have always been a fundamental clinton tactic and the reflexive use the "N"-word and other racial and ethnic slurs, an essential element in the clinton lexicon. When the "first black president" and his wife ran Arkansas, the NAACP sued them for intimidating black voters at the polls.

The Curious Candidacy of Carol Moseley Braun:
an Extension of clinton
drag and drop and legacy of lynching
by Mia T, 2.20.03

 




THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT?
clinton legacy of lynching update7.23.05
 

by Mia T, 7.23.05

A LEGACY OF LYNCHING

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The following movie in Flash format for Without Sanctuary features a series of photographs from James Allen's collection with a voice narrative about the work by Mr. Allen. If you have a regular speed 56K modem, be patient - the movie will start playing in about eight minutes. If you have a high-speed connection, the movie will load for playback in about 20-30 seconds.

view movie
(WARNING! HORRIFIC)

(Read the entire text of James Allen's narrative)

 

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"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

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CIRCULAR REASONING:The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

 

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Two years ago a riot occurred in Atlanta, Georgia, in which four white policemen were killed and several wounded by a colored man named Richardson, who was himself finally burned to death. Through the press the public was informed that the negro was a desperado. As a matter of fact, Richardson was a merchant, well to do and law-abiding. The head and front of his offending was that he dared to reprimand an ex-policeman for living in open adultery with a colored woman. When it was learned that this negro had been so impudent to a white man...

What, then, is the cause of lynching? At the last analysis, it will be discovered that there are just two causes of lynching. In the first place, it is due to race hatred, the hatred of a stronger people toward a weaker who were once held as slaves. In the second place, it is due to the lawlessness so prevalent in the section where nine-tenths of the lynchings occur.

"Lynching from a Negro's Point of View"
Mary Church Terrell
North American Review, 178, (1904): 853-68

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"I will not go down alone."

RON BROWN (DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH) TO BILL CLINTON

 

 

 

"I'm doing my chores for Hillary Clinton."

RON BROWN TO NOLANDA HILL

 
 
 
evidence of consciousness of guilt
at Ron Brown's funeral

[A]t the time of his death Ron Brown was under investigation by an independent counsel, and was likely to be indicted. According to his business partner and confidant, Nolanda Hill, Brown had told President Clinton days before he was asked unexpectedly to travel to Croatia that he would negotiate a plea agreement with the independent counsel, which would entail telling what he knew about alleged illegalities in the Clinton-Gore Administration. Clinton, according to Brown, responded badly.

 ..............................

Judicial Watch, the only entity that has, in its case, taken the sworn testimony of John Huang, which sparked the campaign finance scandal, had also asked the Court to depose Ron Brown, the former Clinton Commerce Department Cabinet Secretary who orchestrated the sale of seats on trade missions in exchange for large campaign contributions to the Democratic Party and Clinton-Gore campaigns, among other illegal acts. The Court in the lawsuit which exposed the scandal has stated that had Ron Brown lived, he would have been deposed by Judicial Watch.

Ironically, Judicial Watch had inadvertently noticed Brown for deposition the week that he was to travel to and later die in Bosnia-Croatia, but the Reno/Clinton Justice Department, which represents the Commerce Department in Judicial Watch's case, asked for a delay... " In a twist of fate, had Brown been ordered to be deposed that week, he might still be alive..."

 ...............................

 

Following his death in Croatia, the Clinton-Gore Pentagon precipitously announced that the death was accidental, before a standard safety investigation was undertaken. Importantly, a safety investigation was never undertaken.

In addition, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology was asked to examine the body. What the pathologists and photographers found was a hole in Secretary Brown's head, the size and shape of a .45 caliber bullet.

Interviews on BET television with the chief military pathologist suggest that he wanted to conduct an autopsy to see if the hole was the result of a gunshot wound, but he was called off by The White House, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Clinton-Gore Commerce and Transportation Departments.

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Judicial Watch petitions to continue Ron Brown investigation by Independent Counsel

Move has tacit backing of Congressional Black Caucus, NAACP, and 75% of African-Americans
Brown was key witness in Judicial Watch lawsuit which uncovered John Huang and likely defendant in Independent Counsel probe at time of his death in Croatia

PRESS CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR 2:00 P.M. ON THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, ON D.C. FEDERAL COURTHOUSE STEPS
 

 

Today, Thursday, February 12, 1998, Judicial Watch will file a petition with the three judge panel to continue the independent counsel investigation of Ron Brown, which had been underway at the time his death on April 3, 1996, in Croatia.

At the time of his death, Ron Brown was a material witness, who had been noticed to testify, in Judicial Watch's lawsuit against the Clinton-Gore Commerce Department. It was this case which uncovered John Huang and is credited for sparking the campaign finance scandal.

In addition, at the time of his death Ron Brown was under investigation by an independent counsel, and was likely to be indicted. According to his business partner and confidant, Nolanda Hill, Brown had told President Clinton days before he was asked unexpectedly to travel to Croatia that he would negotiate a plea agreement with the independent counsel, which would entail telling what he knew about alleged illegalities in the Clinton-Gore Administration. Clinton, according to Brown, responded badly.

Following his death in Croatia, the Clinton-Gore Pentagon precipitously announced that the death was accidental, before a standard safety investigation was undertaken. Importantly, a safety investigation was never undertaken. In addition, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology was asked to examine the body. What the pathologists and photographers found was a hole in Secretary Brown's head, the size and shape of a .45 caliber bullet. Interviews on BET television with the chief military pathologist suggest that he wanted to conduct an autopsy to see if the hole was the result of a gunshot wound, but he was called off by The White House, Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Clinton-Gore Commerce and Transportation Departments. However, a military photographer, sensing that something was "not right," photographed X-rays of Ron Brown's skull which hung on light boxes. These photographs show what may be metal fragments in his brain, consistent with a gunshot wound. Except for these photographs, other X-rays taken in the lab are now mysteriously missing. Pathologists in the lab wanted to conduct an autopsy, but were prevented from doing so. Dr. Cyril Wecht, a renowned physician and pathologist, and a Democrat, has said that the failure to conduct an autopsy was a gross deviation from accepted medical practice. It is also violative of the policy of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology.

Strangely, neither the Brown family nor any of the families of the victims of the plane crash were ever notified of the circumstances of Secretary Brown's death, until after officers in the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology Institute recently blew the whistle on the cover-up, despite groundless and coercive threats from military brass that they would be prosecuted for doing so.

In its petition, Judicial Watch, which represents the military photographer and a pathologist of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology submits sworn affidavits from U.S. military officers attesting to the cover-up.

Judicial Watch has learned that the independent counsel who had been investigating Secretary Brown at the time of his death never closed the inquiry. Accordingly, Judicial Watch will petition the three judge panel which oversees the independent counsel to direct his focus to the death of Ron Brown, and a government employee, Barbara Wise, who was found dead in the Clinton-Gore Commerce Department shortly after John Huang was deposed in Judicial Watch's lawsuit. Wise reportedly worked in the same section as Huang. Judicial Watch is taking this action because Janet Reno has refused to investigate.

While Judicial Watch makes no accusations that Brown was murdered, his death raises questions about why an autopsy was not performed, particularly since he was a Cabinet Secretary and a material witness and putative defendant in legal proceedings at the time. The independent counsel clearly has jurisdiction to investigate Brown's death, since if his fate was not accidental, it could amount to criminal obstruction of justice and witness tampering. Clearly, Brown had deep knowledge of the inner workings of the Clinton-Gore Administration and its allegedly illegal campaign finance and other activities at the Commerce Department, White House, Democratic National Committee and elsewhere. He was also the target of the independent counsel's probe.


AFTER THE FILING OF THE PETITION, A PRESS CONFERENCE WILL BE HELD ON THE STEPS OF THE U.S. COURTHOUSE IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AT 2:00 P.M. TOMORROW, FEBRUARY 12, 1998.


© Copyright 1997-2002, Judicial Watch, Inc.

 

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JUDICIAL WATCH: DEATH OF RON BROWN
CLINTON COMMERCE SECRETARY WAS SLATED FOR DEPOSITION WEEK THAT HE DIED PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW REVEALS EVIDENCE THAT WOUND FOUND ON BROWN'S HEAD WAS UNEXPLAINED

Friend Nolanda Hill Believes Death Needs to Be Investigated


Judicial Watch, the only entity that has, in its case, taken the sworn testimony of John Huang, which sparked the campaign finance scandal, had also asked the Court to depose Ron Brown, the former Clinton Commerce Department Cabinet Secretary who orchestrated the sale of seats on trade missions in exchange for large campaign contributions to the Democratic Party and Clinton-Gore campaigns, among other illegal acts. The Court in the lawsuit which exposed the scandal has stated that had Ron Brown lived, he would have been deposed by Judicial Watch.

Ironically, Judicial Watch had inadvertently noticed Brown for deposition the week that he was to travel to and later die in Bosnia-Croatia, but the Reno/Clinton Justice Department, which represents the Commerce Department in Judicial Watch's case, asked for a delay, which was granted as a courtesy to a cabinet secretary. Judicial Watch did not object to the postponement. " In a twist of fate, had Brown been ordered to be deposed that week, he might still be alive," stated Larry Klayman, Chairman of Judicial Watch.

Nolanda Hill, the former business partner and close friend of Brown, has told major news networks that she believes that "Ron's" death needs to be investigated, based on two facts. First,

Page 1 of 2 Pagesshe related that two weeks before Brown died, he had a meeting with Clinton in the White House, where he told the President of his intentions to cut a plea agreement with the independent counsel that had been investigating him and his son, Michael Brown, for bribery and other offenses. The plea would have meant cooperating to tell everything Brown knew about the scandals. Clinton, accordingly to Hill's account of what Brown told her, reacted with a terse, "that's nice," sitting in an armchair, bare feet up on a stool and arms folded. Second, after Brown's plane went down, she was called by Togo West, the Secretary of the Army, Brown's friend, and told "the military was looking for the bodies in the water (i.e., Adriatic Sea)." The official explanation has been that the plane hit a mountain. Hill believes that the death should be investigated, given these occurrences.

Yesterday, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review revealed that a Lieutenant Colonel and forensic pathologist in the U.S. Air Force has evidence that the wound found on Ron Brown's head is the shape of a .45 caliber bullet. The body of Ron Brown, contrary to normal Air Force procedures, was never autopsied.

When Ron Brown died he was subject to an independent counsel investigation, which was then closed. The case was transferred to the Reno/Clinton Justice Department. After reports on PBS's "Frontline" and the New Yorker magazine that Ron and Michael Brown were part of a bribery scheme of the former cabinet secretary, Reno then struck a plea agreement with Michael Brown, allowing him to plead only to a misdemeanor, with 3 years probation. The only cooperation that Reno asked for, and received from Michael Brown, according to the Associated Press, was an agreement to testify against Nolanda Hill, who had also been implicated in alleged illegality with Ron Brown. Judicial Watch challenged this plea, and has appealed the lower court's acquiescence to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

"As a result of what would appear to be a sham plea agreement with Michael Brown -- where he was not charged with serving as a conduit of bribes to his father, but let off the hook only with a promise to help effectively silence Nolanda Hill (who has expressed her willingness to reveal everything she knows about the Clinton scandals), and this new evidence from a U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel and forensic pathologist, it is clear that the independent counsel investigation of Ron and Michael Brown should be reopened to investigate the circumstances around Ron Brown's death. Had he lived, Ron Brown would have likely provided key evidence about one of the two biggest Clinton Administration scandals (Filegate is the other), the campaign finance scandal," stated Larry Klayman, Chairman of Judicial Watch. "Reno and the Clinton Justice Department are obviously not interested in revealing this evidence, but instead with suppressing it," concluded Klayman. This same conclusion has been reached by many others, including The New York Times editorial page, The Wall Street Journal editorial page, Investor's Busniness Daily, Bob Woodward of The Washington Post, and William Safire, among a growing number of experts who now see an apparent cover-up at the Reno/Clinton Justice Department.


© Copyright 1997-2002, Judicial Watch, Inc.

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THE EVIDENCE

Mr. Grafeld told me, referring to Judicial Watch's allegations that Commerce Department trade mission seats were sold in exchange for campaign contributions, that "(Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel) Klayman is right on target" but that he believes that the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access."

Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building." In fact, there were effectively no security procedures at the Commerce Department to ensure that sensitive and secret documents and/or any documents which might evidence criminal activity stayed in the building. The purported letters referenced by Mr. Grafeld and Nolanda Hill could easily have "left the building" absent sufficient procedures to secure them.

DECLARATION OF SONYA STEWART




President Clinton [upon the discovery of the body of Barbara Wise in the Commerce Department offices] briefly interrupted his Thanksgiving holiday weekend at Camp David Friday with a quick trip to the White House to gather data...and then returned to the mountaintop retreat...

The president, still suffering from a raspy voice, and ordered by his doctor to rest his vocal chords, carried a briefcase as he strolled to the waiting helicopter to return to Camp David. He wore a leather jacket and was followed by an aide carrying a huge box ....

Clinton reviewing inaugural plans
Helen Thomas
Nov, 29, 1996




 

The complex of symptoms associated with Helen Thomas Syndrome, (also known as 'habituated doyenne-iosis'), includes the following:

... tunnel vision -field of vision is so severely constricted that evidence of Pulitzer-quality stories are invariably missed... evidence like:
the discovery of a dead body, the Ron-Brown-posthumous Thanksgiving-Day corpse of Barbara Wise in the Commerce Department offices followed immediately by the clintons' sudden need to travel from Camp David to DC and back.

an absurd reason ("to get a book of poetry") given by the corrupt president under subpoena for the clintons' sudden Turkey-Day travels.

the deposition of Sonya Stewart, which tells us that "the trade mission issues were "only the tip of the iceberg -- that the really big money went towards Presidential access." Mr. Grafeld indicated to me that he believes that Ms. Moss was asking for political contributions in exchange for seats on Commerce Department trade missions, likely at the direction of Hillary Rodham Clinton, but that documents showing this illegal activity had "left the building."

"a huge box" (A really big book of poetry, Helen?) hauled back to Camp David by said corrupt president under subpoena.

Helen Thomas Syndrome: the symptoms
Mia T

 

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"Hill's charges lead to one conclusion -- reappoint the independent counsel"

WASHINGTON - The business partner of late Commerce Secretary Ron Brown testified Monday to a scheme by First Lady Hillary Clinton and top-level White House operatives to cover up evidence linking Commerce Department trade missions to political contributions. Today, the Chairman of the Republican National Committee charged that Nolanda Hill's sworn accusations "mandate that the independent counsel's investigation of the Commerce Department's trade missions be reactivated."

"Independent counsel Daniel Pearson's investigation into allegations that the Commerce Department sold seats on trade missions for contributions to the Clinton-Gore campaign was dropped after Ron Brown's death in April of 1996," noted RNC Chairman Jim Nicholson.

"In light of Nolanda Hill's testimony, it seems the allegations of wrong-doing go much higher than the late Ron Brown. Pearson must be re-appointed, and the independent investigation allowed to continue."

Mrs. Hill, who testified she was Brown's business partner and "close personal confidant for over seven years," testified that he showed her "an inch-thick set" of Commerce Department documents linking trade missions and political contributions. He was under orders from former White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta and current Deputy Chief of Staff John Podesta, he told her, to withhold the documents until after the 1996 Presidential elections. Brown died weeks afterwards, she testified.

Hill testified that Hillary Clinton and senior White House officials had ordered Brown to ask business executives to give a minimum of $50,000 to the Democrat National Committee and the 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign to gain seats on the trade missions. "I'm doing my chores for Hillary Clinton," Brown told her.

"Nolanda Hill's allegations of a cover-up orchestrated at the highest levels of the White House are serious and troubling," Nicholson said, "as is the fact that she was indicted by the Justice Department only two months after she first made these allegations under oath." Hill made the allegations in an affidavit January 17, and expressed fears that she would face retaliation from the Clinton Justice Department for doing so, Nicholson noted. She was indicted on March 13.

RNC

 

10

Wall Street Project, clinton, Jesse Jackson and the Death of Ron Brown

  

At least in the case of Ron Brown, why aren't Americans aggressively pushing Congress and the Justice Department to get at the truth? James Dale Davidson has a theory:

"We're in the point of a hillbilly song, and the line was, 'We really don't want to know.' I really don't want to know. People sometimes shy away from unhappy truths."

Gary Lane
Dying to Tell: The Mysterious Deaths of Clinton Colleagues


Jesse Jackson calls for probe of Ron Brown's death

  

 
By PAUL SHEPARD, Associated Press Writer

 

Copyright © 1998 Nando.net
Copyright © 1998 The Associated Press

 

WASHINGTON (January 6, 1998 01:18 a.m. EST -- Jesse Jackson said Monday the death of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown should be investigated "to relieve people of reasonable doubt."

"There is everything to be gained from pursuing an investigation," Jackson said in an interview with New York City talk radio host Gary Byrd. "It may only prove that he was not murdered. But that would relieve people of reasonable doubt."

Air Force Lt. Col. Steve Cogswell, a deputy medical examiner at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, said in November that an unusual wound at the top of Brown's head could have been a bullet hole, and an autopsy should have been done to find out.

Cogswell did not participate in the examination of Brown's body after it was returned from Croatia. No autopsy was conducted.

Government investigators concluded that Brown died of multiple injuries sustained in the crash of the Air Force plane in which he was a passenger. The plane slammed into a mountain in Croatia in April 1996, killing all 35 aboard.

Col. William T. Gormley, the assistant armed forces medical examiner who conducted the external examination of Brown's corpse, was quoted in an Air Force statement as saying he had ruled out the possibility of a gunshot wound.

"Due to the initial appearance of Brown's injuries we carefully considered the possibility of a gunshot wound," Gormley said. "However, scientific data, including X-rays, ruled out that possibility."

But the government statements have done little to quell the controversy, especially among some influential blacks like NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and Rep. Maxine Waters, head of the Congressional Black Caucus. Both have called for further investigation of Brown's death.

Two weeks ago, civil rights activist Dick Gregory was arrested during a protest outside the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington to demand an independent investigation into Brown's death.

"I think people have a right to know what really happened," Jackson said.

 

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About the Author
Kenneth R. Timmerman, a reporter with more than two decades of experience, has written for many magazines and newspapers including Time, Newsweek, The Wall Street Journal, Reader's Digest, and The American Spectator, and has appeared on Nightline, Sixty Minutes, and many other television programs. He lives in Kensington, Maryland, with his wife and five children.

 

Parallax View, Posthumous Treason

by Mia T

 

On 15 January 1998, standard issue clinton hush money passed flagrante delicto right under the Fourth Estate's patrician nose, the congenital skew of which apparently restricting its line of sight to the obvious payoff.

You may recall that immediately after various world-class forensic experts (some of them devout Democrats who twice voted for clinton) identified a probable bullet wound atop Ron Brown's head, Reverend Jesse Jackson and his Black Caucus cohorts were literally screaming for an independent investigation of the Brown death, demanding an immediate exhumation and autopsy.

Two points to ponder:

•Under federal law Brown's cabinet position mandated an autopsy

•Brown died in a plane crash far more -- shall we say ambiguous -- than the crash that took the life of JFK, Jr. whose autopsy was both a given and instantaneous.

Back to that week in January...

It was a rather busy week for clinton, what with his own sexual-predation/perjury/obstruction-of-justice deposition on Saturday, Ken Starr combing through his congenitally corrupt wife's crimebook on Wednesday, Alexis Herman being added to that burgeoning list of corrupt cabinet clintonoids as of Thursday and Saddam jerking him around every day.

Yet Clinton somehow found the time to journey to Wall Street to aid and abet Jesse Jackson in his continued racial extortion of corporate America. The immediate payoff for Jackson -- $500,000, with potential millions to follow.
(
$2,250,000 in 1998 alone, according to Bill O'Reilly)

It is noteworthy that after 15 January 1998, Jesse Jackson and the Black Caucus never again mentioned the need for an autopsy or an independent investigation of Ron Brown's death.

 

 

 

"It may be true that the law cannot make a man love me, but it can keep him from lynching me, and I think that's pretty important." 

Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

CIRCULAR REASONING:The resultant rule of law relied on by King presumed an adherence to the rule of law in the first instance.

Two years ago a riot occurred in Atlanta, Georgia, in which four white policemen were killed and several wounded by a colored man named Richardson, who was himself finally burned to death. Through the press the public was informed that the negro was a desperado. As a matter of fact, Richardson was a merchant, well to do and law-abiding. The head and front of his offending was that he dared to reprimand an ex-policeman for living in open adultery with a colored woman. When it was learned that this negro had been so impudent to a white man...

What, then, is the cause of lynching? At the last analysis, it will be discovered that there are just two causes of lynching. In the first place, it is due to race hatred, the hatred of a stronger people toward a weaker who were once held as slaves. In the second place, it is due to the lawlessness so prevalent in the section where nine-tenths of the lynchings occur.

"Lynching from a Negro's Point of View"
Mary Church Terrell
North American Review, 178, (1904): 853-68

 

 
 
"I will not go down alone."

RON BROWN (DAYS BEFORE HIS DEATH) TO BILL CLINTON

 

 

 

"I'm doing my chores for Hillary Clinton."

RON BROWN TO NOLANDA HILL

 
 
evidence of consciousness of guilt
at Ron Brown's funeral
A LEGACY OF LYNCHING

 


61 posted on 10/06/2006 4:27:55 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: 185JHP
bump!

The Rs must stay focused. Like Bush.

Hammer home this simple message: To vote for a D, or to vote third party or to sit it out... is to put your kids' lives and your country at grave risk....

We must not get distracted. We must not get discouraged. AND WE MUST NOT PLAY INTO THE CLINTONS' HAND.

And it wouldn't hurt if we put them on the defensive in other ways, too. As someone who earned her stripes on the streets of New York, I'd like to see a little street fighter here.

One thing to remember, though....
In the privacy of the voting booth, with the lives of our children in the balance, even a few of the most radicalized crazies won't be able to pull that wobbly lever on the left.

We must keep hammering away: The Left is gonna get us killed.

62 posted on 10/06/2006 4:34:47 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Liberty Valance

love your bump. ;)
Thanx.


63 posted on 10/06/2006 4:37:33 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All

fyi


64 posted on 10/06/2006 5:04:04 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: UWSrepublican

fyi


65 posted on 10/06/2006 5:20:31 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All

worth repeating, I think....


66 posted on 10/06/2006 5:23:05 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Interesting...

Any evidence or discussion as to whether Foley was one of the 900 FBI files? I'm not sure when Foley took office and if the dates might coincide.


67 posted on 10/06/2006 5:32:45 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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To: TN4Liberty
thx.

My guess is that Foley was too inconsequential to have bothered... and that there was enough dirt on him in the public domain, in any case...

Richard Brookhiser on Foley:

These kids are thrown into a world in which their bosses are little gods. To Washingtonians, the emphasis is on little. Congressmen are a crowd, vaguely similar and faintly ludicrous, like extras in an opera. Senators, in their armor of ego and clout, are the true Olympians. Yet to ordinary mortals, Congressmen are godlike enough. They pass the laws. If you are a page, they are your bosses. The potential for mischief in that disparity is great.

Brookhiser's failure to see that the Senators differ less in kind than in degree from the 'vaguely similar and faintly ludicrous' Congressmen, suggests the following analogy, (and confirms what we, in this forum, already know):

pages : Congressmen :: media : Senators

68 posted on 10/06/2006 6:36:27 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand

ping


69 posted on 10/06/2006 6:42:00 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Gail Wynand; joanie-f; Brian Allen; All

Soros on Cavuto the other day: Truly frightening. Sees the war on terror as 'the wrong metaphor,' i.e., wants to revert back to the feckless and fatally-too-late clinton terror-as-crime paradigm.

Pouring his millions into this effort.


70 posted on 10/06/2006 7:12:37 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All

will be posting a separate thread on this, perhaps later today....


71 posted on 10/06/2006 8:18:09 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Logic as static. The experience of being leftist.

The standard leftist syllogism operates in the Foley fiasco. The conclusion precedes and has validity (to the Left) irrespective of any facts and regardless of the lack of relevancy of any premise.

Hastert Must Go. Republicans are bad.
Foley fascinated with page anatomies, gayly wrote e-mails and internet messages.
The Left Desires Political Power. (Gary Studs doesnt exist)

Our seditious and congenitally ignorant media, of course, has no hesitation in endlessly repeating the Left's inchoherent declarations of self serving conclusions.

How did the schizoid manage to take control of a national poltical party?


72 posted on 10/06/2006 8:22:08 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Gail Wynand; All
congenitally ignorant media--Gail Wynand

I was listening to a seemingly fair, supposedly intelligent reporter (Kathy Kiely-a Princeton grad) on Washington Journal (C-SPAN) the other morning.

A caller offered her a counterexample re the Foley case, i.e., that the Senate didn't even bother, during the impeachment trial of bill clinton, to review the 'Ford building' evidence that supported the charge clinton had indeed raped Juanita Broaddrick and had, over the decades, similarly abused other women. 1

Kiely was totally unaware that the senators had shirked their responsibility.

And now we suffer the consequences of senatorial and media malfeasance: It should have been patently obvious to the senators and the media alike--irrespective of Lieberman and Shays 2 --that a rapist is not a fit president.

What could they have been thinking?

About the contents of the 900 raw FBI files, in the case of the senators?

About access to the president, in the case of the media?

the logic of pathologic self-interest

 

by Mia T

 





here was a third chance to get rid of the clintons.

In '98, when there was still time to stop bin Laden...

The failure to remove the clintons in '98 was a monumental error and is directly traceable to the logic of pathologic self-interest.

Recall in particular:

 

THE LIEBERMAN PARADIGM

Senator Joseph Lieberman's bifurcated Monicagate speech in 1998 on the floor of the Senate was almost universally misperceived as an act of honesty and courage.

In reality, it was neither.

Reduced to its essence, Lieberman's argument was this:

clinton is an unfit president;
therefore, clinton must remain president.

I have called this argument "The Lieberman Paradigm."

Lieberman's argument that sorry day was rightly headed toward clinton's certain ouster when it suddenly made a swift, hairpin 180, as if clinton hacks took over the wheel....

Which they probably did.

What was Joe promised? A place on the 2000 ticket, perhaps?

To be fair, it was not the Lieberman speech but rather a New York Times apologia that institutionalized this shameless scheme to protect a thoroughly corrupt and repugnant--and--as everyone except The New York Times now knows-- dangerous -- Democrat regime.

The Lieberman Paradigm made its debut in the Times' utterly loony 1996 endorsement of clinton. The Times actually argued--I kid you not--that although bill clinton was a "corrupt," "dysfunctional personality [with] delusions" -- the Times' own words -- we need not--we must not--remove bill clinton; we need only remove.the character lobe of bill clinton's brain.
 

THE SHAYS SYNDROME

Not an aberration, the Shays Syndrome was quickly adopted by the entire Senate as its impeachment show trial deus ex machina of choice.

Shays, you may recall, examined the evidence in the Ford Building, concluded that clinton did, indeed, rape Broaddrick -- "VICIOUSLY!" AND "TWICE!" he declared at the time-- and was planning to vote to impeach; he changed his mind, however, after a tete a tete with the rapist.

Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton had given Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...

Each of the 50 senators, on the other hand, cured the cognitive dissonance problem pre-emptively by making certain not to examine the damning Ford Building evidence in the first place.

 

Pushme-Pullyou

 

by Mia T

The halls of fame are open wide
And they are always full;
Some go in by the door called "push,"
And some by the door called "pull."

Quoted by STANLEY BALDWIN

 

The alleged brain trust, Quayle-Sununu
seems less transplant than graft:
a pushme-pullyou,
a phantasmagoric composite,
a Chimera,
a visual joke more hilarious than the Porsche Boxter.

The underlying theory, I suppose, is that
Sununu's (self-described) genius
and Quayle's (self-evident) political judgment
will somehow combine synergistically
to produce a brain worthy of the presidency.
(Is presidential brains really on this electorate's collective mind?)

But what assurances are there
that the resultant brain won't be
Sununu's political judgment and Quayle's intellect?
 

After all,
prior attempts at presidential brain surgery
have proven less than brilliant.

You will recall that, in 1996,
The New York Times insisted that
bill clinton undergo the surgical procedure;
(a call the Times repeated in 2000 for the no less corrupt missus)

its endorsement of clinton was predicated
on clinton undergoing a partial brain transplant:
specifically of the Character Lobe.

clinton assured us immediately (if tacitly)
that this would be done post haste (or was it post chaste?),
that whatever crimes he never did, he would never do again.

If brain surgery was ever performed on clinton,
it has produced no discernible improvement.


Perhaps our approach to the problem
of deficient presidential brains
is itself wrong-headed;
that the problem is ultimately
a problem of deficient electorate brains.

Voters would be wise to heed

the old roadside ad:

Don't lose
Your head
To gain a minute
You need your head
Your brains are in it.

 

Well, with the help of the 100 corrupt and cowardly cullions, clinton walked. The senators' justification for their acquittal votes requires the suspension of rational thought (and, in the curious case of Arlen Specter, national jurisdiction).

 

--Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted

 

THE OTHER NIXON

by Mia T

 

Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.

Shameless pharisees in stark relief crowd the Capitol frieze:

Baucus, Biden, Bingaman, Breaux, Bryan, Byrd, Cohen, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Gore, Graham, Harkin, Hollings, Inouye, Kennedy, Kerrey, Kerry, Kohl, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Moynihan, Reid, Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer.

These are the 28 sitting Democratic senators, the current Vice President and Secretary of Defense -- clinton defenders all -- who, in 1989, voted to oust U.S. District Judge Walter Nixon for making "false or misleading statements to a grand jury."

In 1989 each and every one of these men insisted that perjury was an impeachable offense. (What a difference a decade and a decadent Democrat make.)

Senator Herb Kohl (November 7, 1989):

"But Judge Nixon took an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. As a grand jury witness, it was not for him to decide what would be material. That was for the grand jury to decide. Of all people, Federal Judge Walter Nixon certainly knew this.

"So I am going to vote 'guilty' on articles one and two. Judge Nixon lied to the grand jury. He misled the grand jury. These acts are indisputably criminal and warrant impeachment."

 

Senator Tom Daschle (November 3, 1989):

"This morning we impeached a judge from Mississippi for failing to tell the truth. Those decisions are always very difficult and certainly, in this case, it came after a great deal of concern and thoughtful analysis of the facts."

 

Congressman Charles Schumer (May 10, 1989):  

"Perjury, of course, is a very difficult, difficult thing to decide; but as we looked and examined all of the records and in fact found many things that were not in the record it became very clear to us that this impeachment was meritorious."

 

Senator Carl Levin (November 3, 1989):

"The record amply supports the finding in the criminal trial that Judge Nixon's statements to the grand jury were false and misleading and constituted perjury. Those are the statements cited in articles I and II, and it is on those articles that I vote to convict Judge Nixon and remove him from office."

 

"The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself," observed the philosopher Hannah Arendt. "What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core."

If hypocrisy is the vice of vices, then perjury is the crime of crimes, for perjury provides the necessary cover for all other crimes.

David Lowenthal, professor emeritus of political science at Boston College makes the novel and compelling argument that perjury is "bribery consummate, using false words instead of money or other things of value to pervert the course of justice" and, thus, perjury is a constitutionally enumerated high crime.

The Democrats' defense of clinton's perjury -- and their own hypocrisy -- is three-pronged. 

ONE:

clinton's perjuries were "just about sex" and therefore "do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense."

This argument is spurious. The courts make no distinction between perjuries. Perjury is perjury. Perjury attacks the very essence of democracy. Perjury is bribery consummate.

Moreover, (the clinton spinners notwithstanding), clinton's perjury was not "just about sex." clinton's perjury was about clinton denying a citizen justice by lying in a civil rights-sexual harassment case about his sexual history with subordinates.

TWO:

Presidents and judges are held to different standards under the Constitution.

Because the Constitution stipulates that federal judges, who are appointed for life, "shall hold their offices during good behavior,'' and because there is no similar language concerning the popularly elected, term-limited president, it must have been perfectly agreeable to the Framers, so the (implicit) argument goes, to have a perjurious, justice-obstructing reprobate as president.

clinton's defenders ignore Federalist No. 57, and Hillary Rodham's constitutional treatise on impeachable acts -- written in 1974 when she wanted to impeach a president; both mention "bad conduct" as grounds for impeachment.

"Impeachment," wrote Rodham, "did not have to be for criminal offenses -- but only for a 'course of conduct' that suggested an abuse of power or a disregard for the office of the President of the United States...A person's 'course of conduct' while not particularly criminal could be of such a nature that it destroys trust, discourages allegiance, and demands action by the Congress...The office of the President is such that it calls for a higher level of conduct than the average citizen in the United States."

Hamilton (or Madison) discussed the importance of wisdom and virtue in Federalist 57. "The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust."

(Contrast this with clinton, who recklessly, reflexively and feloniously subordinates the common good to his personal appetites.)

Because the Framers did not anticipate the demagogic efficiency of the electronic bully pulpit, they ruled out the possibility of an MTV mis-leader (and impeachment-thwarter!) like clinton. In Federalist No. 64, John Jay said: "There is reason to presume" the president would fall only to those "who have become the most distinguished by their abilities and virtue." He imagined that the electorate would not "be deceived by those brilliant appearances of genius and patriotism which, like transient meteors, sometimes mislead as well as dazzle."

(If the clinton debacle teaches us anything, it is this: If we are to retain our democracy in this age of the electronic demagogue, we must recalibrate the constitutional balance of power.)

THREE:

The president can be prosecuted for his alleged felonies after he leaves office. (Nota bene ROBERT RAY.)

This clinton-created censure contrivance -- borne out of what I have come to call the "Lieberman Paradigm" (clinton is an unfit president; therefore clinton must remain president) -- is nothing less than a postmodern deconstruction in which the Oval Office would serve for two years as a holding cell for the perjurer-obstructor.

Such indecorous, dual-purpose architectonics not only threatens the delicate constitutional framework -- it disturbs the cultural aesthetic. The senators must, therefore, roundly reject this elliptic scheme.

In this postmodern Age of clinton, we may, from time to time, selectively stomach corruption. But we must never abide ugliness. Never.

 



73 posted on 10/06/2006 9:14:41 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: joanie-f

fyi


74 posted on 10/06/2006 9:20:07 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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And now we suffer the consequences of senatorial and media malfeasance: It should have been patently obvious to the senators and the media alike--irrespective of Lieberman and Shays 2 --that a rapist is not a fit president.--Mia T

Could it be the Connecticut water?

75 posted on 10/06/2006 9:28:07 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: UWSrepublican

ping


76 posted on 10/06/2006 9:32:37 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: YaYa123

ping


77 posted on 10/06/2006 9:33:22 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: yoe

fyi


78 posted on 10/06/2006 9:48:46 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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ping


79 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:21 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

The water's ok, or at least it used to be, unfortunately being within the primary market area of, and the cumulative toxic contamination by, the NYT, Yale, Harvard, The Hartford Courant, and the major broadcasting networks, led to cultural breaking point such that in the mid 80's in West Hartford, when a nutcase ex-husband shot his wifes mother in one location and then later the same night shot the wife and her new boyfriend, whom the killer had handcuffed together, in the middle of the street, so when the trial for murder of these complete innocents went to the Connecticut jury, they were unable to vote for a death penalty for a triple murder, premediated and carried out over a series of hours. I left the state soon afterward.

In yuppiedom, hamburgers come from the grocery store not dead cattle. The dying are shipped to 'hospice'. There is no evil, because they have lost the ability to recognize evil, except of course the evil of republicanism, conservatism, and traditional religions.


80 posted on 10/06/2006 10:39:48 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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