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The Foley Set-Up
various FR links and blogs | 10-04-06 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 10/04/2006 2:12:07 PM PDT by backhoe

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To: backhoe

Thanx Again!


121 posted on 10/10/2006 1:32:16 PM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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Thanks for looking...
122 posted on 10/10/2006 1:34:53 PM PDT by backhoe
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http://strata-sphere.com/blog/ ( Read it all )

Folyegate Unraveling On Democrats

Posted by AJStrata on October 10th, 2006

Happened to be one of those rare days when I am in the car when Rush is on and saying something of interest to me (you would be surprised how rare that actually is!) and he asked if the Foley story would have legs. If it is about Foley and Hastert - no. But if it is about who in the Democrat party held the information that would indicate Foley was possible sexual predator of pages the story will stay in the news. I have deduced that the leak about Foley and his overtures to the Lousianna Page - which ignited the story and resulted in the other leads which have clearly caused concern about Foley’s activities with Pages as they graduated out of the program - occurred some time between Oct 17 and November 30th, 2005.

In addition, we know the leak and subsequent shopping of the emails was not done by the same person. The emails in question appear to have been between the LA Page and Danielle Savoy in Rep Alexander’s office. There are some who claim the source of the emails was a Rep. But these same claims say a ‘man’ was shopping these email around the newsmedia from November of 2005 through July, and possibly into August, of 2006. The reporting has it the source of the leaks was Rep Alexander’s staff (or maybe former staff, as we shall learn in a moment.

For all of this time the ‘man’ apparently never informed authorities that Foley was a threat to Pages and recently graduated Pages. It was not until CREW notified the FBI in July of 2006 that anyone attempted to raise a red flag, but the CREW versions of the emails were so heavily redacted the FBI could not do much with them.

Today we have reporting from The Prowler at American Spectator from two DNC sources confirming there was a plot to withhold this information from the public and law enforcement in order to use it for partisan gain!:

According to one political consultant with ties to the DNC and other party organizations, “I’m hearing the Foley story wasn’t supposed to drop until about ten days out of the election. It was supposed the coup de grace, not the first shot.”

What this DNC source is saying is the Democrats and CREW were supposed to conceal the Foley risk even longer than they did! This means the Dems were going to allow Foley to continue his efforts to prey on young men so that they could have an election year scandal to sweep them into office. As I have said many times, if the Dems were ever caught hiding these warning signs about Foley they would be as guilty as Foley in terms of risking the kids. Foley was preying on these kids for personal pleasure, the Dems were clearly allowing Foley to prey on these kids for personal/partisan gain! Both were exploiting these kids for selfish and selve serving reasons. The Dems may call Hastert negligent, but clearly the Dems KNEW what they were doing when they decided top exploit them.

“Republicans had to have known we’d be looking to change the national debate,” says a House Democrat leadership aide. “You had our leadership looking at cratering polling numbers. A majority within grasp wasn’t drifting away, it was being yanked back by Republicans. I wouldn’t be surprised if Foley had to be bumped up on the scandal schedule. That makes a lot of sense given where we were two weeks ago, and where we are now.”

This seems to be a bit of crowing by the Dem leadership aide about how well their efforts worked, even though they had to pull the trigger on the Foley scandal sooner than they wanted to. So who was this leadership aide? Well, Gateway Pundit has a lead on who that might be - and possible connection to the leak itself and who shopped it to the media for nearly a year - courtesy Erik at Redstate:

In August of 2004, Rodney Alexander’s Chief of Staff, Brian Smoot, and five other staffers abruptly quit because Alexander switched to the GOP. National Journal reported on August 13, 2004, that the Chief of Staff “sharply criticized Alexander for switching parties.” The Chief of Staff and five staffers were promptly hired by minority leader Nancy Pelosi.

So we have a Dem leadership aide who also has contacts inside Alexander’s office. Coincidnce? Is this why Pelosi refused to testify under oath or on a polygraph? Gateway Pundit also has information on Harper’s Magazine having this information for over a year since May of 2006! Clearly the effort was not to protect the kids in the Page program, or just coming out of the program this summer, but to use their exposure to a sexual predator as partisan scandal for electorial gains. Pathetic.

Major Update: Harper’s confirms that a Democrat operative was shopping the story in May (same time CREW got the story) and NOT attempting to alert authorities in order to protect the kids:

Last May, a source put me in touch with a Democratic operative who provided me with the now-infamous emails that Foley had sent in 2004 to a sixteen-year-old page. He also provided several emails that the page sent to the office of Congressman Rodney Alexander, a Louisiana Republican who had sponsored him when he worked on Capitol Hill. “Maybe it is just me being paranoid, but seriously, This freaked me out,” the page wrote in one email. In the fall of 2005, my source had provided the same material to the St. Petersburg Times—and I presume to The Miami Herald—both which decided against publishing stories.

It was a Democrat who brought me the emails, but comments he made and common sense strongly suggest they were originally leaked by a Republican office. And while it’s entirely possible that Democratic officials became aware of the accusations against Foley, the source was not working in concert with the national Democratic Party. Last May, a source put me in touch with a Democratic operative who provided me with the now-infamous emails that Foley had sent in 2004 to a sixteen-year-old page. He also provided several emails that the page sent to the office of Congressman Rodney Alexander, a Louisiana Republican who had sponsored him when he worked on Capitol Hill. “Maybe it is just me being paranoid, but seriously, This freaked me out,” the page wrote in one email. In the fall of 2005, my source had provided the same material to the St. Petersburg Times—and I presume to The Miami Herald—both which decided against publishing stories.

It was a Democrat who brought me the emails, but comments he made and common sense strongly suggest they were originally leaked by a Republican office. And while it’s entirely possible that Democratic officials became aware of the accusations against Foley, the source was not working in concert with the national Democratic Party.

Harpers has got to be kidding! The operative was disgusted and concerned but never once sent the info authorities? If this story had broken then the leads that came in later that filled in the picture of Foley targetting kids in the Page program for later contact would have come much earlier. But that would have made the news of minimal value to the Dems. So they held it and kept trying to shop it. The fact they tried to shop it is not a sign of their good intent. In fact, it is a signal of a ‘test run’. To see what would have to be part of the story to make it actionable by the press. Or, if the early versions were incomplete or sanitized, it could have been the simple act of establishing an alibi - a cover story. We would have to see what was shopped at each phase to see if everyone got EXACTLY the same information.

So I say Harpers and Aravosis and the St Peterburg Time all do what CREW and ABC News did and publish what they were provided. We the people can then decide if there was an honest effort on the part of the dems. The fact CREW contacted the FBI, with incomplete information, is not an indication the Dems and their media allies were hitting the signal flares! Sorry, but dems could have alerted authorities at any point in time if this was such a driving concern.

Update:Another item in the Harper’s article is somehow they had a version or access that gave them insight into who the LA Page was:

I tried to contact the page who received Foley’s emails and the boy’s parents, but got no reply to my inquiries.

Right there we have some interesting questions. We know the ABC News versions of the Savoy emails and Savoy’s name (and led straight to Rep Alexander’s office. The CREW version possibly had this information redacted. But with the knowledge of which Rep office was getting the complaint it would be trivial to track down which Pages were from that district (the Page program is just not that large in any given year). Given Rep Alexander’s efforts to protect the identity of the Page I find it hard to believe they wanted these emails out in a form that could ID the specific district.


123 posted on 10/10/2006 3:00:00 PM PDT by backhoe
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http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/2672#comments

They think they know who is at the bottom of this whole Foley mess and guess who he works for? You got it, Nancy Pelosi!!

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/democratic-foleygate-source-revealed.html

Carol

124 posted on 10/10/2006 3:03:58 PM PDT by backhoe
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WOW! You are amazing, heavy equipment guy ... excellent backhoe, just your usual excellent compilations.

I wonder how well the Net is countering the media whoredom efforts to cover up the lies and fabrications they've been running for their demigod democraps? Sickening, don'tchaknow.

125 posted on 10/10/2006 8:41:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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Atlas Election VLOG
First in a Series

Nukes, NORKS, Reid, Masturgate, China, Gay bashers, Islamic Jihad....Atlas Rants

Iran blames U.S. for N. Korea nuke test
Mainstream Media and Democrats Blame Bush for North Korea

Kerry blasts Bush N.Korea policy

 Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., blasts the Bush's policies on North Korea, telling [al] Reuters

From John Fund, Political Journal (PAID only)

The Gay Republican-Kim Jong Il Connection

Politics is all about timing. Apparently, the liberals behind Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), the group that received information about Mark Foley's sexual instant messages as far back as April, originally planned to unleash its blockbuster a bit later in the 2008 election cycle. The American Spectator reports that a political consultant with ties to the Democratic National Committee told the magazine: "I'm hearing the Foley story wasn't supposed to drop until about ten days out of the election. It was supposed to be the coup de grace, not the first shot."

But as another Democratic operative told the magazine, the political climate at the end of September was suddenly turning ominous. "Bush's national security speeches were getting traction beyond the base, gas prices were dropping, economic outlook surveys were positive. Republicans were back to [holding enough House] seats for a 15-seat majority. In the Senate, it looked like a wash." All that may have played a role in prompting Democratic partisans to speed up the use of opposition research on Mr. Foley that had been put aside for later in the campaign. "Republicans had to have known we'd be looking to change the national debate," says a House Democrat leadership aide.

Check out my North Korea post here (watch the video)

The David Zucker Albright ad (flagged by YouTube , of course)

UPDATE: Strasphere has more here on the party of Obstruction and Personal Destruction;

The WaPo seems to be trying to get ahead of some coming news by admitting they dealt with a democrat operative peddling the Foley story and used a Democrat Page source who was interested in affecting the coming elections

Between WaPo and Harpers we don't need much more evidence of Democrat dirty tricks - do we?

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126 posted on 10/11/2006 1:13:36 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: MHGinTN

Marvin, I greatly appreciate your kind comments. Thanks for stopping by.


127 posted on 10/11/2006 2:03:40 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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BUSTED....WASHINGTON POST REPORTS DEMOCRATS BEHIND FOLEYGATE!--New commentary from the Blogosphere: CREW Response To Charges Is Highly Questionable  ( hattip: Ernest_at_the_Beach  )

 On Foley…It’s “what could the do and when could they do it?”


Mark Foley has no coattails
--Funny how the Dems are all for gay rights, except for Republican congressmen, and are all against electronic snooping on Foreign terrorists but plastering the private conversations of two Americans all over the media is just fine.

Blogger to "Out" a Gay a Day to Expose GOP "Hypocrisy"-- Cool - libs got tired of waiting for us to fulfill their prophesy - that we would do witch-hunts - so now they are doing the witch-hunts. What a hoot. Hey, while you're at it liberals, are you going to try to get them fired?

128 posted on 10/11/2006 1:09:14 PM PDT by backhoe
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Hugh Hewitt: The High Water Mark for the 2006 Democrats Was A Week Ago--loose nukes of bad hair kooks...
129 posted on 10/11/2006 3:57:22 PM PDT by backhoe
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Closeted Homosexual Republicans Target of Blog-Activist
130 posted on 10/12/2006 3:37:33 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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131 posted on 10/12/2006 3:38:22 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe; Smartass; JustPiper; MamaDearest; nicmarlo; Kimberly GG

Hey Backhoe, long time no see:-) Thanks for all your excellent work and research!

I'm ready to Ex-Foley-ate them all!


132 posted on 10/12/2006 11:55:59 AM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: demkicker

ROFLMAO! Your tag line rocks!


133 posted on 10/12/2006 12:05:10 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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Hey Backhoe, long time no see:-) Thanks for all your excellent work and research! I'm ready to Ex-Foley-ate them all...

Thanks for stopping by- I'd love to fumigate Washington, and then Atlanta... and then, City Hall at home.

But I guess I'll have to settle for voting against every Donk on the ticket...

134 posted on 10/12/2006 1:13:53 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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FOX News Poll: Few Would Change Vote Due to Foley Scandal
 
Rasmussen Poll: Bush @ 44% up 4 points since Foley Scandal--The Foley debacle has had no impact on party affiliation trends and no measurable impact on support for Republicans among Evangelical Christians.

135 posted on 10/12/2006 1:22:39 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Here is what I have written previously about this:

The closest thing to position papers or briefs I have written about this subject, and gays are here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1715754/posts?page=14#14
and here:
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=785474&highlight=#785474

And I truly believe that the Left's throwing gays under the bus for cheap ( and probably transient or nonexistent ) political gains is going to backfire on them, badly. They look mean in both the modern and archaic sense of the word.

And I will also add that I find the "outing" of any gays who are minding their own business to be extremely onerous, obnoxious, and offensive.

136 posted on 10/12/2006 1:26:36 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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Harry Reid's scandal, which puts Foley into new light
 
 
If you are getting the idea that gay Republicans may be closeted Democrats, then you are beginning to understand how the Mark Foley scandal could have been a Democratic Party dirty trick. Here:
http://www.sweetness-light.com/
 

The Gay Man In Charge Of Pages - And Other Details

October 12th, 2006

A pretty amazing article from Cliff Kincaid at Accuracy In Media:

Republican Gays are Closeted Dems

By Cliff Kincaid | October 12, 2006

So if the gay Republicans are not really Republicans, what are they? 8 Comments »

Read this testimony by sloop, who is a gay man. It is eloquent, painful, and powerful:

sloop

Sloop, thank you for saying what I have known for a long time. I have many gay friends...

FOLEYGATE RESEARCH(vanity)


137 posted on 10/13/2006 3:30:10 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Thanks again for your excellent research.

BTW, I want to thank you ever so much again for all those Civil Defense links you did some years ago. The info on nukes was especially appreciated. I guess if you've watched "Jericho" you're laughing your rear end off at the poetic license taken by the show's authors and all that is unrealistic on the show. More mis-information.

Also, you may be interested in a link I'm providing. I read this guy's book some years ago. He claims he is a former U. S. Army Intelligence Officer. His thinly disguised novel is no longer printed, no doubt because of the information it contained regarding survival. I finally located the author here:

http://www.survivalblog.com/


138 posted on 10/13/2006 8:27:31 AM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Larousse2

I greatly appreciate your comments, and thanks for the link- looking now.


139 posted on 10/13/2006 2:19:07 PM PDT by backhoe
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The kosaks have just started AN OPEN SEASON ON ALL HOMOSEXUALS IN THE USA:
Kos Kidz Plan to "Out" The Whole World

Can you imagine a world with these freaks in power? Daily Kos: ‘Out’ all Republican Gays in Congress. (Hat tip: Killgore Trout.)   link: 217 comments  "This exposes what the L³eft really think about gay rights. Pretty much the same thing they think about all other rights.  If it doesn't promote their agenda then it isn't a right.

#20 thedopefishlives  10/13/2006 02:50PM PDT
 

So let me get this straight (heh heh, no pun intended)... You're going to openly and actively persecute Republicans based on sexual preference, but whenever any of us on the right makes so much of a whisper of preserving traditional marriage, all of a sudden we're targeting the gay community and denying them their rights.  They love minorities as long as they are "their" minorities.

#78 eon  10/13/2006 03:16PM PDT
 

I'm consistently amazed at the Koslings. They believe that if they "out" closeted gay Republicans, it will- what? Turn people who already don't like the GOP against it? Make the Republican Party split along sexual/gender difference lines? (I refuse to use the term "sexual preference"- however GLBT individuals may differ from others, it is most certainly not a matter of "preference", any more than the color of your eyes is a "preference".) Or maybe they think that the GOP will collapse when they tell the rest of America what its leaders are "really like".
This is the same game they have repeatedly played on any group or individual they hate. Accuse them of a "crime", find them guilty of it, and demand that they disappear forever in expiation of their "sins". Give them scarlet robes and goatees, and they'd be the Spanish Inquisition. (And yes, I have seen the Monty Python skit about them- it's one of my favorites.) But the fact that they would exploit someone's difference to demean them, when they would rabidly attack anyone who criticized someone on their side of the political spectrum for possessing the same attribute, disgusts me.
More to the point, if (as they say), all these GOPers are "closeted", how would they know? I'm 48 and a lifelong bachelor- does that mean they assume I'm gay? (Drop by sometime, we'll discuss it- calmly. Assuming, that is, that said Koslings are even capable of acting calm.)

 

140 posted on 10/14/2006 3:46:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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