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Finance biggest deterrent to having children, report says
Guardian Unlimited ^ | 10/4/06 | John Carvel

Posted on 10/04/2006 9:39:29 AM PDT by qam1

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To: steve-b
Ah, the fallacy of redefinition.

No. I disagree with one of your premises. It's not a fallacy if the debating parties can't agree on a premise.
101 posted on 10/05/2006 8:25:34 AM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: Antoninus

You don't have to blush. All I really said was, "I think you're great because you agree with me." (j/k)


102 posted on 10/05/2006 8:35:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices; I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: steve-b
Yeah, that's why India conquered Britain.
Oh, wait....

We are waiting. They'll be finished in about another two generations, if current trends continue. Parts of India now go by "Pakistan" and "Bangladesh," but that's a quibble.

103 posted on 10/05/2006 8:37:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices; I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

"It's pretty close. I spent $80K USD on my little sweet dog last year alone. Vet bills are steep these days."

I'm sorry to hear that and sincerely hope that I am not faced with such a choice. I'm not sure I'd be willing to spend that type of money on my wonderful choc lab. It would be a very difficult situation to face.


104 posted on 10/05/2006 8:38:35 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Are you serious? You spent $80,000 on vet bills?


105 posted on 10/05/2006 8:41:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices; I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: Tax-chick
You don't have to blush. All I really said was, "I think you're great because you agree with me." (j/k)

In that case, I think you're great, too. ;-)
106 posted on 10/05/2006 8:42:05 AM PDT by Antoninus (Attention GOP---Rule 4: See Rules 1 and 3. Rule 5: NO FOLEYS!)
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To: durasell

Yes, that's true but how is it easier for a dirt poor person to raise 2,3,4+ kids but the middle class and above can not do it. They just don't want a lot of kids. It's not the money issue in the sense that they can not afford them it's a money issue in that they can but would rather have 2 cars, a jet ski, a big house, a plasma screen tv, etc. Why struggle with 4 kids when you can be comfortable and happy with 1 or 2 and still have the lifestyle you want. People do not have an obligation to humanity to have 2.1 children so the world population is sustainable.


107 posted on 10/05/2006 12:27:12 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Antoninus
Speaking as someone who has four wonderful little kids, I 'have' something that all the DINKs in the world will never understand. And I wouldn't trade it for all the BMWs, fancy cell phones, season tickets, extravagant vacations, and designer clothes in the world.

I dunno. My kids have days where I would consider trading at least one of the four of them on a BMW or even a good night's rest. ; )

108 posted on 10/05/2006 1:00:56 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Antoninus
Well, there are at least three Freepers on this thread who have 4+ kids. I can't speak for the others, but my family has never been on public assistance of any kind.

Same here with four kids.

109 posted on 10/05/2006 1:04:13 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: Tax-chick

just kidding but I probably would if I had it.


110 posted on 10/05/2006 4:46:38 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: CSM

Sorry, just kidding but I think I would if I had that kind of money


111 posted on 10/05/2006 4:47:37 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: conservative cat; Antoninus

We have 8 children, and have never been on "public assistance," unless you count working for the government :-).

We're happy to take charity if our friends, neighbors, or church family want to offer, but we also give plenty away. God is faithful, and His people are generous.


112 posted on 10/05/2006 4:54:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices. I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

Okay :-). It seemed like an *awful* lot! I know vet bills are expensive; we spent plenty on our old cat, before she passed away last year from extreme old age.


113 posted on 10/05/2006 4:55:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (I was shouting at my Voices. I'm sorry I scared you.)
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To: Antoninus

Some people choose not to live modestly or, to put it another way, they choose not to live to the limit of their financial resources by having a lot of kids.


I can't fault them for this.


114 posted on 10/07/2006 12:39:30 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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