[Kirkwood]

"This is too bad.... Jesus was perfect."

Still is.

[Asclepius]

"This is too bad.... Jesus was perfect." Still is.

Nope. Never was. He plainly supported the authority of the law and the prophets, yet he plainly refused to honour the mitzvot or the sages in practice, and commanded his followers--tax collectors, i.e. Roman quislings and oppressors of the Jews among them--to do the same. He seemed particularly hostile to Shabbot, the most sacred of Jewish observances. Not to mention his hostility to the temple services.

OK. So I will allow that he was the perfect gentile, whatever that means, because he certaily hated all things Jewish, and I can hardly blame him since the Jews of Judea didn't regard their Galilean cousins as Jewish (and rightly so, as their paternity was disputed). So he must have been hurt that the establishment never accepted him. But he was never the perfect Jew.