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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Tuesday 10-03-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 10-03-2006 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/03/2006 8:43:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

So it is starting to look more and more like Bob Woodward, in his following of Kitty Kelly's footsteps, also decided to simply made up large portion of his current book.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/10/1/151 303.shtml?s=lh

Andy Card Denies Woodward Claim

Ronald Kessler Monday, Oct. 2, 2006

Former White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. "Andy" Card Jr. has denied Bob Woodward's claim that he and first lady Laura Bush tried to get Donald Rumsfeld fired as defense secretary.

Card told NewsMax that the assertion in Woodward's book "State of Denial" that he thought Rumsfeld should have been the one to leave the administration instead of himself was also "not true." Card left as chief of staff in April.

According to an excerpt to be published in the Washington Post on Sunday, "State of Denial" says, "He [Card] was leaving. And the man most responsible for the postwar troubles, the one who should have gone, Rumsfeld, was staying."

But Card told NewsMax, "I never felt that someone should have left ‘instead' of me." Card said any implication that he was bitter about leaving was also "not true at all."

News accounts about the Woodward book led with Andy Card trying to oust Rumsfeld with the support of Laura Bush. But White House spokesman Tony Snow quoted Laura Bush's office as saying Woodward's claim relating to her was "flatly not true." In addition, Card told the Associated Press that Laura Bush never encouraged an effort to oust Rumsfeld.

"Mrs. Bush and I never discussed it," Card said.

Only two major news outlets ran Laura Bush's denial — the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post.

In his book, Woodward wrote that Card urged Bush to replace Rumsfeld with former Secretary of State James Baker following the 2004 election. According to the book, Bush decided not to do so after Vice President Dick Cheney and chief political adviser Karl Rove convinced him it would be seen as an expression of doubt about the direction of the war and expose Bush to criticism.

Woodward claimed that Card, with the backing of first lady Laura Bush, tried a second time to persuade Bush to fire Rumsfeld around Thanksgiving 2005. But according to Woodward, the president again refused to replace him.

But according to Card, he never pushed for Rumsfeld's resignation. He said he kept a list of potential Cabinet and staff changes for Bush to consider after the 2004 election, as he did after other important dates.

"To say that it was a campaign or an orchestrated effort would be wrong,"' Card said. "But were there times that we talked about potential changes in the Cabinet? Yes. Did they center around Rumsfeld? Not necessarily. They were in a broader context."

Tony Snow, besieged by questions about it at his daily briefing, said the book was similar to others critical of the war effort and that much of it was less than meets the eye.

"In a lot of ways, the books are like cotton candy. They kind of melt on contact,'" he said.

In a story that ran July 31, Card told NewsMax that his own resignation arose after he had been thinking for some time that "the president needed something that would allow external observers to see that he had new momentum." Card said he already had a lot of changes in the works, but nobody would have seen them as change.

"So it was time for new personalities to help give definition to the word change," Card said. "I first went to the president more than a month and a half before I left. I said, ‘You know, I think it's probably time to think about it.'"

"Nah!" the president replied at Camp David. "I'm not going to do anything."

Card suggested he give it some thought.

"We talked a handful of other times about it, and finally it was the right time," Card said.


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To: Howlin



http://tinyurl.com/25pny


541 posted on 10/03/2006 11:54:19 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: A.Hun

I do believe you are right.


542 posted on 10/03/2006 11:54:50 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Neverforget01
Guess there's nothing more important happening in the world than the gay deviant lifesytle of Foley--This is pathetic.

I agree. It is another example of how PR stupid the Conservative Establishment has got. They spend all their time responding to the Democrats Noise machine. What an utter waste of time.

543 posted on 10/03/2006 11:56:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

More likely ABC caught fake hell.


544 posted on 10/03/2006 11:57:15 AM PDT by nitejohnboy (the only good democrat is a democrat with its own postage stamp.)
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To: beyond the sea; Howlin; Mo1; onyx

The next Dan Rather.

545 posted on 10/03/2006 11:57:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin; Mo1

Ugh...I remember that whole thing...and once again I was SO mad at OUR side for having jelly spines...and not standing up to Rockefeller and Leahy...

I have lost more faith since...but that was the real eye-opener for me.


546 posted on 10/03/2006 11:58:13 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Neverforget01

I got to agree. Maybe Rush didn't want to do much prep today.


547 posted on 10/03/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT by Current Occupant (DBM, Libs, 5th column,PC will destroy this country. Preach it TALKIES while you still can!!!!!!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Its where they got the idea for the flag that sickens me.

They stole it from International Order of Rainbow. A masonic girls organization. They used that flag for almost 50 years til it was stolen from them by gays and Rainbow Push. (Gay organization actually admitted it). Girls had to get a new flag.

That flag represented lessons of
Love, Religion, Nature, Immortality, Fidelity, Patriotism, and Service.


548 posted on 10/03/2006 11:58:47 AM PDT by acsrp38 (Found: WMD Saddam didn't have before he didn't have them)
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To: beyond the sea; eeevil conservative

EC, do you have the cats handy? I think I am smelling troll. The problem is, troll smells a lot like baloney to me.


549 posted on 10/03/2006 11:58:59 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Proud member of the radical Christian movement since January 22, 1984!)
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To: MNJohnnie
What an utter waste of time.

BINGO Johnnie. I couldn't be more disappointed in Rush. He didn't recognize what Soros wanted him to do?

550 posted on 10/03/2006 11:59:19 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (He tried,and he failed-he didn't try hard enough)
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To: kcvl


Apparently so.


551 posted on 10/03/2006 11:59:26 AM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Smart comment...I agree. But, getting the pubbies all on the same page is like...(you've heard it before)...herding cats.


552 posted on 10/03/2006 11:59:36 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex)
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To: wouldntbprudent

LOL

Bravo!


553 posted on 10/03/2006 12:00:06 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: Mo1

UMMMMMMM....and if you were the 'web-designer' and 'host' to a particular 'client'...you could 'snoop'!

The plot thickens....

(check your mail in a minute for a update)


554 posted on 10/03/2006 12:00:09 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: MNJohnnie

Questioning the timing is a diversion. What? Political enemies/opponents using salacious info on the opposition timed for maximum effect? Am I suppose to feign shock and amazement? OK, I get it. The DEMs are using this to their advantage. OK. Got it. So? Doesn't make Foley less of a perv. Why even dwell on the story? I'm pretty sure my congressman, Scott Garrett, isn't behaving this way. Foley's perv ways won't change my vote one way or another. And I'm sure I'll still listen to Rush. But the "question the timing" defense is just plain weak.


555 posted on 10/03/2006 12:01:01 PM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: denydenydeny
If you don't see something political in the timing

They appear to be using it to their advantage. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!

556 posted on 10/03/2006 12:01:38 PM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: Mo1; Howlin
Here's what I found on the story:

Intern Backs Miranda, Says Senate Computers Were Not Hacked

557 posted on 10/03/2006 12:01:52 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: restornu

You too!

:-)


558 posted on 10/03/2006 12:02:04 PM PDT by hattend (Anytime you see a union building, think of it as a branch office of the Democratic Party. - Rush)
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To: Yaelle

lol. Suspicious? More like obvious.


559 posted on 10/03/2006 12:02:06 PM PDT by Huck (There is a $2.00 service charge for this tagline---do you still wish to proceed?)
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To: aligncare

Of course I understand you darling! LOL


560 posted on 10/03/2006 12:02:32 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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