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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Tuesday 10-03-2006
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Posted on 10/03/2006 8:43:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

So it is starting to look more and more like Bob Woodward, in his following of Kitty Kelly's footsteps, also decided to simply made up large portion of his current book.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/10/1/151 303.shtml?s=lh

Andy Card Denies Woodward Claim

Ronald Kessler Monday, Oct. 2, 2006

Former White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. "Andy" Card Jr. has denied Bob Woodward's claim that he and first lady Laura Bush tried to get Donald Rumsfeld fired as defense secretary.

Card told NewsMax that the assertion in Woodward's book "State of Denial" that he thought Rumsfeld should have been the one to leave the administration instead of himself was also "not true." Card left as chief of staff in April.

According to an excerpt to be published in the Washington Post on Sunday, "State of Denial" says, "He [Card] was leaving. And the man most responsible for the postwar troubles, the one who should have gone, Rumsfeld, was staying."

But Card told NewsMax, "I never felt that someone should have left ‘instead' of me." Card said any implication that he was bitter about leaving was also "not true at all."

News accounts about the Woodward book led with Andy Card trying to oust Rumsfeld with the support of Laura Bush. But White House spokesman Tony Snow quoted Laura Bush's office as saying Woodward's claim relating to her was "flatly not true." In addition, Card told the Associated Press that Laura Bush never encouraged an effort to oust Rumsfeld.

"Mrs. Bush and I never discussed it," Card said.

Only two major news outlets ran Laura Bush's denial — the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post.

In his book, Woodward wrote that Card urged Bush to replace Rumsfeld with former Secretary of State James Baker following the 2004 election. According to the book, Bush decided not to do so after Vice President Dick Cheney and chief political adviser Karl Rove convinced him it would be seen as an expression of doubt about the direction of the war and expose Bush to criticism.

Woodward claimed that Card, with the backing of first lady Laura Bush, tried a second time to persuade Bush to fire Rumsfeld around Thanksgiving 2005. But according to Woodward, the president again refused to replace him.

But according to Card, he never pushed for Rumsfeld's resignation. He said he kept a list of potential Cabinet and staff changes for Bush to consider after the 2004 election, as he did after other important dates.

"To say that it was a campaign or an orchestrated effort would be wrong,"' Card said. "But were there times that we talked about potential changes in the Cabinet? Yes. Did they center around Rumsfeld? Not necessarily. They were in a broader context."

Tony Snow, besieged by questions about it at his daily briefing, said the book was similar to others critical of the war effort and that much of it was less than meets the eye.

"In a lot of ways, the books are like cotton candy. They kind of melt on contact,'" he said.

In a story that ran July 31, Card told NewsMax that his own resignation arose after he had been thinking for some time that "the president needed something that would allow external observers to see that he had new momentum." Card said he already had a lot of changes in the works, but nobody would have seen them as change.

"So it was time for new personalities to help give definition to the word change," Card said. "I first went to the president more than a month and a half before I left. I said, ‘You know, I think it's probably time to think about it.'"

"Nah!" the president replied at Camp David. "I'm not going to do anything."

Card suggested he give it some thought.

"We talked a handful of other times about it, and finally it was the right time," Card said.


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To: Mo1; kcvl; ravingnutter

Yes, I do remember that!

Let me go searching.

kcvl???


501 posted on 10/03/2006 11:35:04 AM PDT by Howlin (Release the Joe Wilson Niger Report!!!!)
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To: LibertyLee

You were right...

"personal friend" Rush said.


502 posted on 10/03/2006 11:35:22 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Who is this caller??

Defending Foley??

Foley is guility as hell


503 posted on 10/03/2006 11:35:32 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey McCain and Graham .... our soldiers signed up to dodge bullets not lawsuits)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

504 posted on 10/03/2006 11:35:42 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Wait a min i have a new theory on this matter
505 posted on 10/03/2006 11:36:18 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: angcat

I misunderstood what you said (sometimes I read faster than I comprehend!). Thanks for understanding me!


506 posted on 10/03/2006 11:36:27 AM PDT by aligncare (Beware the Media-Industrial Complex)
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To: Mo1
Ross must be compromised himself. He's been out there doing so many things on behalf of the Dems. of late..... he is dirty.

I'm sorry, Mo1, I'm in a hurry........ but I guarantee that Ross is dirty!

The truth will be known!

507 posted on 10/03/2006 11:36:38 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: denydenydeny

Rush implies that teens don't save IM messages. I have four daughters (ages 25-17) that print out "conversations" and also save them on the computer. I have watched them do this over the years on many occasions.

They e-mail IM messages and show them to friends.
I have regularly warned them about what they write to others because once they "send" it, it is out there for all to see.

We have had the school administration involved in some students IM messages where they have Bragged about being so drunk at high school homecoming events or they just got away from a raid on a house party and then other students have turned those IM in to the authorities.


508 posted on 10/03/2006 11:36:48 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: acsrp38
Sort of like getting Steele SSS#, pretending you are him and accessing his private accounts??

Same kind of things most PIs do all the time. Especially the Lezner(sp?) kind.

509 posted on 10/03/2006 11:36:59 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: AliVeritas; eeevil conservative
Since the left plans on outing a senator to be named later... and ethics is in play again, time to bring out the future speaker's and other assorted bloviators business...

oooooh...can I play?
510 posted on 10/03/2006 11:38:09 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (If you speak against your own, you have chosen the wrong side.)
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To: MNJohnnie

This could be funny if it wouldn't be so close to the truth.For anybody that is thinking of not voting.

Upcoming 2008 Democratic Convention Agenda!

6:00 p.m. - Opening flag burning ceremony. 6:05 p.m. - Opening secular prayers by Rev. Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton 6:30 p.m. - Anti-war concert by Barbra Streisand. 6:40 p.m. - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.

7:00 p.m. - Tribute theme to France. 7:10 p.m. - Collect offerings for al-Zawahri defense fund. 7:25 pm. - Tribute theme to Germany. 7:45 p.m. - Anti-war rally (Moderated by Michael Moore)

8:25 p.m. - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast. 8:30 p.m. - Terrorist appeasement workshop.

9:00 p.m. - Gay marriage ceremony (both male and female couples) 9:30.p.m. - * Intermission

10:00.p.m. - Posting the Iraqi Colors by Sean Penn and Tim Robbins 10:10 p.m. - Re-enactment of Kerry's fake medal toss. 10:20.p.m. - Cameo by Dean 'Yeeearrrrrrrg!' 10:30 p.m. - Abortion demonstration by N.A.R.A.L. 10:40 p.m. - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast. 10:50 p.m. - Pledge of allegiance to the UN.

11:00 p.m. - Multiple gay marriage ceremony (threesomes, mixed and same sex). Rep. Barney Frank (D,Mass.), Sponsor 11:15 p.m. - Maximizing Welfare workshop. 11:30 p.m. - 'Free Saddam' pep rally. 11:59 p.m. - Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.

12:00 p.m. - Nomination of democratic candidate.

Any chance we could get Ted Kennedy to drive Hillary home from the convention?


511 posted on 10/03/2006 11:38:19 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"personal friend" Rush said.

yeah...another member of that "orientation"...

512 posted on 10/03/2006 11:39:23 AM PDT by LibertyLee (George W. Bush a Great President--US out of the UN and UN out of the US!)
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To: rep-always

bump


513 posted on 10/03/2006 11:39:32 AM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind --- Support the Cause: Donate Today)
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To: rep-always

You are right. Deep down that is not really funny because it is too close to the truth about the Democrat Party


514 posted on 10/03/2006 11:39:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? or Samurai? or Fascists?)
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To: Mo1
ABC caught pure hell over the movie the path way to 9/11 could this be a chance to redeem themselves to the Left?
515 posted on 10/03/2006 11:39:54 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: Howlin

I think that was the Senate Intelligence Committee memo that Sean Hannity got hold of.

The Dems left their portion of the computer without password protection.


516 posted on 10/03/2006 11:39:59 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Hello A.Hun


517 posted on 10/03/2006 11:40:35 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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To: StoneWall Brigade

Mostly lurkin today. BAH day (Busy as h*ll).


518 posted on 10/03/2006 11:41:18 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Mo1
Very, very, very odd!

Rush nearly immediately today on the show mentioned this: (the subject of my post # 24). Only for a few seconds did he mention it.

Then ............ not again the entire show so far.

Odd, very, very odd!!!

He knows that The Washington Times was compromised to write the editorial that they did against Hastert. So many others in D.C. are compromised too.

The truth will come out!

519 posted on 10/03/2006 11:41:28 AM PDT by beyond the sea ( The Shadow of Your Smile --- Anthony Dominick Benedetto)
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To: A.Hun

May God be with you my friend


520 posted on 10/03/2006 11:42:09 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/ Rick Santorum 08!)
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