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Could a gay Congressman be quarantined?
Wall Street Journal ^ | Tuesday, October 3, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT | Unknown (Opinion)

Posted on 10/03/2006 6:34:43 AM PDT by Herosmith

Florida Republican Mark Foley's sexually explicit emails to a Congressional page certainly warranted his resignation from the House, and they may well merit prosecution. But this being five weeks from an election, the GOP House leadership is also being assailed for not having come down more strongly on a gay Congressman for showing a more than friendly interest in underage boys. That's a different issue altogether.

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The liberals may have a problems with this one...
1 posted on 10/03/2006 6:34:43 AM PDT by Herosmith
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The SAME people that are screaming for Haster's head are the SAME people that want GAY BOY SCOUT LEADERS and GAYS in tghe MILITARY!!


2 posted on 10/03/2006 6:35:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Herosmith

another turd burgler bites the dust.....If only Barneys Frank would have been drummed out because he ran a Male 'pay for bone smuggling' ring out of his house.


3 posted on 10/03/2006 6:36:42 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Herosmith

Given the new criteria set out by the Dems, Barney Frank, given his history with young men, should be barred from any contact with the pages.


4 posted on 10/03/2006 6:37:30 AM PDT by Pete
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To: Herosmith

The guy isn't an acoholic. Seems like anyone who gets in trouble these days goes into alcohol rehab.

This guy is a pedophile and should be prosecuted.
Drunks go to prison all the time for killing people. Alcohol doesn't allow them to escape prison time.

Fat dumb and stupid is no way to go through Congress, son.


5 posted on 10/03/2006 6:37:58 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

He's not a pedophile. He's a pederast.


6 posted on 10/03/2006 6:38:35 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Yeah, let's go revisit the Boy Scouts and gays in the military issue with the Dems and see where they line up.


7 posted on 10/03/2006 6:39:24 AM PDT by carola
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To: Herosmith
What next was Mr. Hastert supposed to do with an elected Congressman?

I think you would normally say 'put a man on him' but given the circumstances just putting out some back door feelers to gather more information would be apt.
8 posted on 10/03/2006 6:39:35 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Pyro7480

He's not a pedophile. He's a pederast.

I thought pederast was a sub-category of pedophile?
As the oklahoma redneck once said: "I don't care if he IS peddlin' a bike naked, it needs to back off the young boys."


9 posted on 10/03/2006 6:41:17 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: Pyro7480
He's not a pedophile. He's a pederast.

If your statement is true he will be locked up.
10 posted on 10/03/2006 6:41:20 AM PDT by kinoxi (.)
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"Could a gay Congressman be quarantined?"

Just lock Foley in a room with Barney Fwank. They'd have a grand old time together.

After the election, the MSM can stone Foley, and Fwank, the gay pimp, can go back to being a respected member of congress.

What liberal double standard?


11 posted on 10/03/2006 6:42:38 AM PDT by exile (Mrs. Exile - "Yes you're the greatest husband ever, now put on some pants")
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"The liberals may have a problems with this one..."

This October Surprise may blow up in the liebrals little faces, making papers like the WSJ a clear enemy to the American people!

12 posted on 10/03/2006 6:59:31 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (Those who would bash Osteen/Warren would support HAMAS)
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To: Herosmith

A few more shining examples of Dhimmicratic escapades.

Rep. Wilbur Mills (D-Ark.)
On Oct. 9, 1974, Mills, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and perhaps the most powerful member of the House, was stopped for speeding near the Jefferson Memorial at 2 a.m. Shortly after, Annabella Battistella – a stripper who went by the stage-name of Fanne Foxe, the "Argentine Firecracker" – jumped out of his car and into the Potomac River tidal basin. The incident did not immediately threaten Mills, whose district was solidly Democratic. But Mills won reelection with only 59 percent of the vote, his lowest total ever. Within weeks, Mills appeared on a Boston stage carousing with Foxe, apparently intoxicated. Faced with an uprising among House Democrats, Mills was forced to resign as Ways and Means chairman, and in 1976 he announced he would not seek another term, ending his 38-year House career. He was succeeded by Jim Guy Tucker, whose own ethics got the attention of Kenneth Starr some two decades later.

Rep. Wayne Hays (D-Ohio)
In its May 23, 1976, editions, The Washington Post quoted Elizabeth Ray as saying that she was a secretary for the House Administration Committee, headed by Hays, despite the fact that "I can't type, I can't file, I can't even answer the phone." She said the main responsibility of her $14,000-a-year job was to have sex with Hays. The fall of Hays, an arrogant bully who was one of the most powerful – and disliked – members of Congress, was rapid. The House ethics committee opened its investigation on June 2. He resigned as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee on June 3. In the Democratic primary five days later, a car-wash manager/bartender who had run against Hays four previous times and never received more than 20 percent of the vote got 39 percent. Hays later resigned his committee chairmanship, dropped his reelection bid, and finally resigned on September 1.

Rep. John Young (D-Tex.)
On June 11, 1976, Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, was reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

Rep. Allan Howe (D-Utah)
On June 13, 1976, Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

Rep. Fred Richmond (D-N.Y.)
In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion – and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him – he resigned his seat.

Gerry Studds (D-Mass.)
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages. Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand him, but med Newt Gingrich argued that he should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure him, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Studds refused to apologize. Tthe voters in Studds's more liberal district were forgiving. He won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.

Sen. Brock Adams (D-Wash.)
On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

Rep. Jim Bates (D-Calif.)
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint.

Rep. Gus Savage (D-Ill.)
The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.)
In response to a story in the Aug. 25, 1989, Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

Sen. Charles Robb (D-Va.)
On April 25, 1991, with NBC News about to go on the air with allegations he had an extramarital affair with Tai Collins, a former Miss Virginia, Robb made a preemptive strike. The Virginia Democrat, married to Lyndon Johnson's daughter, said he was with Collins in a hotel room, but all that took place was a massage over a bottle of wine. Collins, in a subsequent interview with Playboy, said they had been having an affair since 1983. It was thought that these charges, along with long-circulated but unproven allegations that Robb had attended Virginia Beach parties where cocaine was present, would jeopardize Robb's 1994 bid for re-election.

Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote – the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.

Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.)
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.


13 posted on 10/03/2006 7:02:37 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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I wish the press would learn to make the distinction between the Emails and the Instant Messages. The two are very quickly becoming one and the same in the eyes of the public who rely on the MSM for their propoganda ( sorry I meant news)


14 posted on 10/03/2006 7:09:30 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Herosmith

I predict thousands and thousands of anti gay democrats will now take to the streets


15 posted on 10/03/2006 7:12:54 AM PDT by woofie
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Yes, Mr. Hastert and his staff should have done more to quarantine Mr. Foley from male pages after the first email came to light. But if that's the standard, we should all admit we are returning to a rule of conduct that our cultural elite long ago abandoned as intolerant.

This is precisely my position. I have been attacked as a "useful idiot" of the left for saying Hastert should have done more based on the emails alone. Of course, I also believe that we should return to a code of conduct our elites have long ago abandoned. I wonder how that position will go over on FR.

16 posted on 10/03/2006 7:29:40 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: stm
One more for you. Presidential hopeful Gary Hart getting caught en flagrante delicto on board the yacht "Monkey Business" in 1984 and having to withdraw from the race. Although it did save him the embarrassment of Mondale's landslide loss to Ronald Reagan, hehehe.

17 posted on 10/03/2006 7:50:17 AM PDT by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: stm

Can someone here clarify the law regarding such behavior. What is the age of consent in D.C.? If the page (or former page) is over that age, would solicitation via I-M's violate any laws? Are we talking about criminal actions, or just disgusting indiscretions?


18 posted on 10/03/2006 7:54:46 AM PDT by joylyn
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According to this it's 16. Which means he was of legal age. The behavior is still reprehensible but apparently not illegal.

And no one will be able to convince me otherwise that the Dhimmicrats have not known about this for a while and were just waiting until the last month before the mid-term elections to spring it. It's just toooo convenient.
19 posted on 10/03/2006 8:01:21 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: Tulsa Ramjet

HE IS NOT A PEDOPHILE...16 & 17 year olds are NOT children. In fact, I heard the age of consent in DC is 16. He's a pervert, he's sick, but a pedophile is something completely different. If we confuse the two, we really don't do either any justice. I saw an interview with imprisoned pedophiles. All of the men said the weren't homosexual. THEY HAD A NEED TO HAVE SEX WITH CHILDREN. You might not like that, but that's what it is.


20 posted on 10/03/2006 8:08:23 AM PDT by Hildy
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