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John Paul II Shouldn't Have Survived Gunshot(Miracle?)
NewsMax.com ^ | Oct. 2, 2006 | staff

Posted on 10/02/2006 6:07:20 PM PDT by kellynla

Doctors who operated on Pope John Paul after a 1981 assassination attempt were convinced he would die under the knife, his ex-secretary says in a new book.

Cardinal Stanislaw Dziwisz, now archbishop of Krakow in Poland, also says in a memoir due to be published next year that efforts to save the pope were hampered by a series of glitches.

Brief excerpts of "My Life with Karol" were made available on Monday by the Italian publisher Rizzoli ahead of its presentation at the Frankfurt Book Fair this week.

In a chapter called "Those Two Bullets", Dziwisz recalls his feelings when Turkish gunman Mehmet Ali Agca shot the Pope while his open jeep was being driven through St Peter's Square on May 13, 1981 at the start of his weekly general audience.

"I tried to hold him up (after he was hit by the second bullet) but it was as if he was letting himself go sweetly," writes Dziwisz, who served Karol Wojtyla for nearly four decades from the time the future pontiff was a bishop in Poland.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; johnpaulii; pope
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In his last book before dying in 2005, the Pope wrote that he was convinced the shooting was not Agca's initiative and that "someone else masterminded it and someone else commissioned it".
1 posted on 10/02/2006 6:07:20 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

wasn't his survival supposed to be one of the Fatima predictions?


2 posted on 10/02/2006 6:10:19 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Salvation; NYer

ping


3 posted on 10/02/2006 6:10:59 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Pretty well established that the Russkys did it, through the Bulgarians, their usual conduit for stuff they don't want to hold the bag for.

It was way over the line, and some people talked.

Whether Italian prosecutors could prove it in an Italian court, lacking the necessary witnesses, doesn't interest me in the least.

4 posted on 10/02/2006 6:12:22 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: kellynla

Do you mean that the doctors got it wrong? Say it ain't so!


5 posted on 10/02/2006 6:13:06 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: kellynla; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

6 posted on 10/02/2006 6:13:30 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kellynla; onyx; kstewskis; NYer; Salvation; pyro; ELS

God bless him .. and I do believe it was a miracle of Our Blessed Lady, to whom he was such a loving, loyal and devoted son.


7 posted on 10/02/2006 6:15:34 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: oceanview

I'll never forget that day, I was in 5th Grade at Franklyn Sherman Elementry in McLean,VA when my Teacher ran around screaming "The Pope's Been Shot"....


8 posted on 10/02/2006 6:20:19 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: Salvation

Miracle? I say BIG TIME!


9 posted on 10/02/2006 6:22:01 PM PDT by defconw (Gearing up for W2 in 08!)
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To: STARWISE

Why is it when something unexpected happens that is good, it's a miracle, but if it's bad God doesn't get blamed for it? And if it turns out later that the bad had good effects, God starts getting credit again?

I don't see how people can take this stuff seriously at all.


10 posted on 10/02/2006 6:22:23 PM PDT by gcruse (" I can not support them now because Jones has turned them into a joke" I can not support them now b)
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To: gcruse
God starts getting credit again?

I sympathize—I'd like to get more credit for stuff in my life, too. But unfortunately, I didn't create the universe, and I try to give credit where it's due.

11 posted on 10/02/2006 6:25:52 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: kellynla

With all due respect to his life's vocation, we can't dismiss the long-term effects of an athletic youth.


12 posted on 10/02/2006 6:33:32 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: cmsgop
Geez, today in McLean VA, the teachers wouldn't be permitted to display any such regard for the head of the Roman Catholic Church!
13 posted on 10/02/2006 6:34:54 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: kellynla; Salvation

Reagan and the Holy Father - giants of their time. Both had Divine missions, and both received Divine protection in the face of satanic attack.

Just my opinion, of course...


14 posted on 10/02/2006 6:34:56 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: FormerLib

Yeah,True,True


15 posted on 10/02/2006 6:37:27 PM PDT by cmsgop ( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
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To: Larry Lucido
Well said LL.

(steely)

16 posted on 10/02/2006 6:42:08 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Steely Tom

Thanks. :-)


17 posted on 10/02/2006 6:43:00 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: AnAmericanMother

Let's not forget to see the wood for the trees. He was shot by an islamofascist who has said he did it for islam. He may have been paid by the russians but he did it for mohammed (pigs be upon him).


18 posted on 10/02/2006 6:56:38 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: oceanview

No.


19 posted on 10/02/2006 7:00:05 PM PDT by fatima (Go Eagles.)
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To: fatima

are you sure? I thought there was some linkage to his survival, and the 3rd prediction.


20 posted on 10/02/2006 7:01:05 PM PDT by oceanview
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